non-visible options vs menuconfigs

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the current EXPERT menuconfig is broken by some new options that happen to be 
sprinkled into the wrong place.  seems like if a node is unprintable, it 
should get skipped for menuconfig purposes ?  otherwise, this is a constantly 
losing battle where someone inserts new Kconfig options and forgets this 
nuance, and then it stays broken for a while until someone notices.  this 
particular bug wrt EXPERT has been linux-3.2.

for example, in the General setup section, you currently see:
	[ ] Configure standard kernel features (expert users)  --->
	[ ] Embedded system

if you enable EXPERT there, the options get dumped into the same level instead 
of being under that menuconfig:
	[*] Configure standard kernel features (expert users)  --->
	[ ] Sysctl syscall support
	[*] Load all symbols for debugging/ksymoops
	...
	[ ] Embedded system

is this feasible in the kconfig code ?
-mike

--- a/init/Kconfig
+++ b/init/Kconfig
@@ -1177,6 +1177,35 @@ config SYSCTL
 config ANON_INODES
 	bool
 
+config HAVE_UID16
+	bool
+
+config SYSCTL_EXCEPTION_TRACE
+	bool
+	help
+	  Enable support for /proc/sys/debug/exception-trace.
+
+config SYSCTL_ARCH_UNALIGN_NO_WARN
+	bool
+	help
+	  Enable support for /proc/sys/kernel/ignore-unaligned-usertrap
+	  Allows arch to define/use @no_unaligned_warning to possibly warn
+	  about unaligned access emulation going on under the hood.
+
+config SYSCTL_ARCH_UNALIGN_ALLOW
+	bool
+	help
+	  Enable support for /proc/sys/kernel/unaligned-trap
+	  Allows arches to define/use @unaligned_enabled to runtime toggle
+	  the unaligned access emulation.
+	  see arch/parisc/kernel/unaligned.c for reference
+
+config HOTPLUG
+	def_bool y
+
+config HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
+	bool
+
 menuconfig EXPERT
 	bool "Configure standard kernel features (expert users)"
 	# Unhide debug options, to make the on-by-default options visible
@@ -1187,9 +1216,6 @@ menuconfig EXPERT
           environments which can tolerate a "non-standard" kernel.
           Only use this if you really know what you are doing.
 
-config HAVE_UID16
-	bool
-
 config UID16
 	bool "Enable 16-bit UID system calls" if EXPERT
 	depends on HAVE_UID16
@@ -1214,26 +1240,6 @@ config SYSCTL_SYSCALL
 
 	  If unsure say N here.
 
-config SYSCTL_EXCEPTION_TRACE
-	bool
-	help
-	  Enable support for /proc/sys/debug/exception-trace.
-
-config SYSCTL_ARCH_UNALIGN_NO_WARN
-	bool
-	help
-	  Enable support for /proc/sys/kernel/ignore-unaligned-usertrap
-	  Allows arch to define/use @no_unaligned_warning to possibly warn
-	  about unaligned access emulation going on under the hood.
-
-config SYSCTL_ARCH_UNALIGN_ALLOW
-	bool
-	help
-	  Enable support for /proc/sys/kernel/unaligned-trap
-	  Allows arches to define/use @unaligned_enabled to runtime toggle
-	  the unaligned access emulation.
-	  see arch/parisc/kernel/unaligned.c for reference
-
 config KALLSYMS
 	 bool "Load all symbols for debugging/ksymoops" if EXPERT
 	 default y
@@ -1259,9 +1265,6 @@ config KALLSYMS_ALL
 
 	   Say N unless you really need all symbols.
 
-config HOTPLUG
-	def_bool y
-
 config PRINTK
 	default y
 	bool "Enable support for printk" if EXPERT
@@ -1300,9 +1303,6 @@ config PCSPKR_PLATFORM
           This option allows to disable the internal PC-Speaker
           support, saving some memory.
 
-config HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
-	bool
-
 config BASE_FULL
 	default y
 	bool "Enable full-sized data structures for core" if EXPERT

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