On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:08, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Kyle Moffett <kyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:04, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:14, Russell King - ARM Linux >>>>>>[...] >>>>>> >>>>>> Doesn't kconf error out when trying to select a non-existent symbol? >>>>> >>>>> Nope. >>>> >>>> You're right. So that's a bug. >>>> >>> depends on what you are trying to achieve and what the problem is. >>> >>> Internally kconfig will create a dummy symbol when it encounter a >>> missing symbol so that arch/arm/Kconfig can reference a symbol which >>> will be fully defined later on. I do not think you want to forward >>> decl all the symbol which can be used. That'd be a mess. That said, we >>> can come with a form of symbol deprecation that would error-out when >>> used. >> >> Would it be possible instead to make Kconfig go through all the symbols >> after everything is processed and identify any remaining "dummy symbols" >> which were not actually declared anywhere? >> > this is software, everything is possible. > >> Right now if you typo a "select" statement you get no warnings that you >> are selecting something that does not exist, which is probably a cause >> of many kinds of errors beyond this particular one. >> > d'oh! ... I'm not sure we want that. Dummy symbol are heavily used > internally, a trivial implementation[0] triggered: > > % make REGENERATE_PARSERS=y alldefconfig 2>&1 | grep 'defined without > type' | wc -l > 817 > > Moreover, this approach is deemed to fail. The current symbol > namespace is tied to an arch, so whenever you do: > > arch/arm/Kconfig: > config FOO > bool > > config BAZ > bool > > drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig > config BAR > depends on ARM && FOO > select BAZ > > You will end up triggering the warning for every ARCH != ARM... Perhaps that's an argument for building a single Kconfig namespace? At the very least, most of the architecture-generic warnings could be worked around with trivial predeclarations in an "arch/Kconfig" file: config ARM bool [...] config X86 bool There's probably technical issues that I'm missing that would make that inordinately painful, but I can't see them right now... any ideas? Cheers, Kyle Moffett -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kbuild" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html