Re: [PATCH v6 07/15] digest_cache: Allow registration of digest list parsers

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 11:25:07AM +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 15:53 -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> 
> Firmware, eBPF programs and so on are supposed

Keyword: "supposed". 

> As far as the LSM infrastructure is concerned, I'm not adding new LSM
> hooks, nor extending/modifying the existing ones. The operations the
> Integrity Digest Cache is doing match the usage expectation by LSM (net
> denying access, as discussed with Paul Moore).

If modules are the only proven exception to your security model you are
not making the case for it clearly.

> The Integrity Digest Cache is supposed to be used as a supporting tool
> for other LSMs to do regular access control based on file data and
> metadata integrity. In doing that, it still needs the LSM
> infrastructure to notify about filesystem changes, and to store
> additional information in the inode and file descriptor security blobs.
> 
> The kernel_post_read_file LSM hook should be implemented by another LSM
> to verify the integrity of a digest list, when the Integrity Digest
> Cache calls kernel_read_file() to read that digest list.

If LSM folks *do* agree that this work is *suplementing* LSMS then sure,
it was not clear from the commit logs. But then you need to ensure the
parsers are special snowflakes which won't ever incur other additional
kernel_read_file() calls.

> Supporting kernel modules opened the road for new deadlocks, since one
> can ask a digest list to verify a kernel module, but that digest list
> requires the same kernel module. That is why the in-kernel mechanism is
> 100% reliable,

Are users of this infrastructure really in need of modules for these
parsers?

  Luis




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