Re: [PATCH v9 06/19] x86: Add early SHA-1 support for Secure Launch early measurements

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On 11/18/24 12:02 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 11:12 AM James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 2024-11-18 at 10:43 -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
Linux should not use TPM2_PCR_Extend *at all*.  Instead, Linux should
exclusively use TPM2_PCR_Event.  I would expect that passing, say,
the entire kernel image to TPM2_PCR_Event would be a big mistake, so
instead Linux should hash the relevant data with a reasonable
suggestion of hashes (which includes, mandatorily, SHA-384 and *does
not* include SHA-1, and may or may not be configurable at build time
to include things like SM3), concatenate them, and pass that to
TPM2_PCR_Event.  And Linux should make the value that it passed to
TPM2_PCR_Event readily accessible to software using it, and should
also include some straightforward tooling to calculate it from a
given input so that software that wants to figure out what value to
expect in a PCR can easily do so.

Just for clarity, this is about how the agile log format works.  Each
event entry in the log contains a list of bank hashes and the extends
occur in log event order, so replaying a log should get you to exactly
the head PCR value of each bank.  If a log doesn't understand a format,
like SM3, then an entry for it doesn't appear in the log and a replay
says nothing about the PCR value.

I have no idea what the "agile log format" is or what all the formats
in existence are.  I found section 4.2.4 here:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/TCG_IWG_CEL_v1_r0p41_pub.pdf__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Iw9aAHcJMT6j3t_DSb7cOk8iWy8VJYkJOlGQ_gtLUz0XwPcIZclY4I8GZJ5VP4OScLjBaz3RX1QlGGBWWZw$

It says:

This field contains the list of the digest values Extended. The Extend
method varies with TPM command, so there is
no uniform meaning of TPM Extend in this instance, and separate
descriptions are unavoidable. If using the
TPM2_PCR_Extend command, this field is the data sent to the TPM (i.e.,
not the resulting value of the PCR after the
TPM2_PCR_Extend command completes). If using the TPM2_PCR_Event
command, this field contains the digest
structure returned by the TPM2_PCR_Event command (that contains the
digest(s) submitted to each PCR bank as
the internal Extend operation). This field SHALL contain the
information from the TPML_DIGEST_VALUES used in
the Extend operation.

So we're logging the values with which we extend the PCRs.  Once upon
a time, someone decided it was okay to skip extending a PCR bank:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://google.github.io/security-research/pocs/bios/tpm-carte-blanche/writeup.html__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Iw9aAHcJMT6j3t_DSb7cOk8iWy8VJYkJOlGQ_gtLUz0XwPcIZclY4I8GZJ5VP4OScLjBaz3RX1QlKxD4S1w$

and it was not a great idea.

There seem to be six (!) currently defined hashes: SHA1, SHA256,
SHA384, SHA512, SM2 and SM3.  I haven't spotted anything promising not
to add more.  It seems to be that Linux really really ought to:

(a) extend all banks.  Not all banks that the maintainers like, and
not all banks that the maintainers knew about when having this
discussion.  *All* banks.  That means TPM2_PCR_Event().  (Or we refuse
to boot if there's a bank we don't like.)

(b) Make a best effort to notice if something is wrong with the TPM
and/or someone is MITMing us and messing with us.  That means
computing the hash algorithms we actually support and checking whether
TPM2_PCR_Event() returns the right thing.  I'm not seeing a specific
attack that seems likely that this prevents, but it does seem like
decent defense in depth, and if someone chooses to provision a machine
by reading its event log and then subsequently getting an attestation
that a future event log matches what was read, then avoiding letting
an attacker who temporarily controls the TPM connection from
corrupting the results seems wise.  And I don't see anything at all
that we gain by removing a check that (TPM's reported SHA1 == what we
calculated) in the name of "not supporting SHA1") other than a few
hundred bytes of object code.  (And yes, SHA1 is much more likely to
be supported than SM3, so it's not absurd to implement SHA1 and not
implement SM3.)


For some events, the hash is actually the hash of the event entry
itself and for others, the entry is just a hint and the hash is of
something else.

I think part of the confusion stems from the twofold issues of PCRs: at
their simplest they were expected to provide the end policy values
(this turns out to be problematic because there are quite a few ways,
that will produce different end PCR values, that a system could get to
the same state).  If you don't trust a bank (or don't know about it),
you don't code it into a required policy statement and its value
becomes irrelevant.

I think that "you" refers to multiple entities, and this is a problem.

If the vendor of an attestation-dependent thing trusts SM3 but *Linux*
does not like SM3, then the vendor's software should not become wildly
insecure because Linux does not like SM3.  And, as that 2004 CVE
shows, even two groups that are nominally associated with Microsoft
can disagree on which banks they like, causing a vulnerability.

Thanks everyone for all the feedback and discussions on this. I understand it is important and perhaps the Linux TPM code should be modified to do the extend operations differently but this seems like it is outside the scope of our Secure Launch feature patch set.

As far as our patch series goes, we have done the things that were asked of us like documenting SHA-1 usage, fixing comments and commit message and breaking up the original patch into two (one for SHA-1 and one for SHA-256). It seems we should be able to submit our next version at this point.

Thanks
Ross




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