On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 06:25:14PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote: > On 10/3/24 5:59 PM, Stefan Berger wrote: > > On 10/2/24 1:04 PM, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > > > (I'm still in the process of testing this to confirm it fixes the > > > errata I've seen, but I wanted to send it out for comments to make sure > > > it's a reasonable approach.) > > > > > > Some Infineon devices have a issue where the status register will get > > > stuck with a quick REQUEST_USE / COMMAND_READY sequence. The work around > > > > Did you tell Infineon about it? Maybe they should have a look at their > > firmware. I'm in contact with Infineon, and have their errata under NDA. > > What are the TPMs in your fleet doing? I heared that some TPMs > > pre-create keys in the background once users requested a few. I would > > try to create a few primary keys with different combination of key flags > > Actually make this child keys of primary keys: > > > tsscreateprimary > Handle 80000000 > > while :; do time tsscreate -hp 80000000 -si -opem pubkey.pem ; cat > pubkey.pem; done > > This should give a different key every time and maybe key creation time goes > up at some point... We're doing a TPM2_CC_CREATE, but as part of a "seal" operation for some data, rather than full asymmetric key creation. So I don't think this is likely to be the cause, but it's given me the idea to see if we are seeing a spike on a particular command - maybe there's something that's close to the edge on timings that is occasionally going over. Playing around with bpftrace seems to give useful data so I'll need to investigate if I can deploy that to do some monitoring. Our monitoring is running hourly and does the following TPM2 operations (including the in kernel context switching): TPM2_CC_SELF_TEST TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY TPM2_CC_READ_PUBLIC TPM2_CC_READ_PUBLIC TPM2_CC_CREATE TPM2_CC_LOAD TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_SAVE TPM2_CC_FLUSH_CONTEXT TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_LOAD TPM2_CC_UNSEAL TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_SAVE TPM2_CC_FLUSH_CONTEXT TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_LOAD TPM2_CC_FLUSH_CONTEXT TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_SAVE TPM2_CC_READ_CLOCK TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY TPM2_CC_READ_PUBLIC J. -- If I, um, err. Yeah, it probably rounds down. -- Simon Huggins