On 10/19/2023 12:45 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote: > On Wed, 2023-10-18 at 16:40 -0400, Paul Moore wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 4:23 PM Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Wed, 2023-10-18 at 12:35 -0400, Paul Moore wrote: >>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:15 AM Roberto Sassu >>>> <roberto.sassu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> On 10/18/2023 3:09 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote: >>>> ... >>>> >>>>>> I agree with Roberto. All three should be defined: LSM_ID_INTEGRITY, >>>>>> LSM_ID_IMA, LSM_ID_EVM. >>>>> I did not try yet, but the 'integrity' LSM does not need an LSM ID. With >>>>> the last version adding hooks to 'ima' or 'evm', it should be sufficient >>>>> to keep DEFINE_LSM(integrity) with the request to store a pointer in the >>>>> security blob (even the init function can be a dummy function). >>>> First off, this *really* should have been brought up way, way, *way* >>>> before now. This patchset has been discussed for months, and bringing >>>> up concerns in the eleventh hour is borderline rude. >>> As everyone knows IMA and EVM are not LSMs at this point. >> Considering all the work Roberto has been doing to make that happen, >> not to mention the discussions we've had on this topic, that's an >> awfully small technicality to use as the basis of an argument. > Sorry Paul, but I've been working on this patch set for a long time and > you were also involved in the prerequisites (like making the > 'integrity' LSM as the last). > > I thought it was clear at this point that we were going to add the > hooks to the 'integrity' LSM. There's a chicken/egg issue here. You can hold up the syscalls patch forever if you insist on it accommodating every patch set that's in the pipeline. I understand that you've been working on the integrity rework for some time. I understand that it's frustrating when things change out from under you. Believe me, I do. > > I really have no problem to rebase my work on top of other work, but I > was very surprised to see LSM_ID_IMA instead of LSM_ID_INTEGRITY, and > at minimum this should have been agreed with Mimi. And also, I was not > convinced with the argument that LSM_ID_IMA should represent IMA+EVM. > > Roberto >