On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 13:17 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 11:25:05AM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > > > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 13:14 -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 18:33 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:00:55PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > > To differentiate between a regular file hash and an fs-verity file digest > > > > > based signature stored as security.ima xattr, define a new signature type > > > > > named IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG. > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > For this new signature type, what bytes are actually signed? It looks like it's > > > > just the raw digest, which isn't sufficient since it is ambiguous. It needs to > > > > include information that makes it clear what the signer is actually signing, > > > > such as "this is an fs-verity SHA-256 file digest". See > > > > 'struct fsverity_formatted_digest' for an example of this (but it isn't > > > > necessary to use that exact structure). > > > > > > > > I think the existing IMA signatures have the same problem (but it is hard for me > > > > to understand the code). However, a new signature type doesn't have > > > > backwards-compatibility concerns, so it could be done right. > > > > > > As this change should probably be applicable to all signature types, > > > the signature version in the signature_v2_hdr should be bumped. The > > > existing signature version could co-exist with the new signature > > > version. > > > > By signing the file hash, the sig field in the IMA measurement list can > > be directly verified against the digest field. For appended > > signatures, we defined a new template named ima-modsig which contains > > two file hashes, with and without the appended signature. > > > > Similarly, by signing a digest containing other metadata and fs- > > verity's file digest, the measurement list should include both digests. > > Otherwise the consumer of the measurement list would first need to > > calculate the signed digest before verifying the signature. > > > > Options: > > - Include just fs-verity's file digest and the signature in the > > measurement list. Leave it to the consumer of the measurement list to > > deal with. > > - Define a new template format to include both digests, add a new field > > in the iint for the signed digest. (Much more work.) > > - As originally posted, directly sign fs-verity's file digest. > > I don't really have enough knowledge about IMA and how it is used to decide on > one approach or the other. Note that earlier I mentioned that it would be > possible to have an fs-verity setting that makes a full file digest be included > in the fsverity_descriptor, so it gets covered by the fs-verity file digest and > is also retrievable in constant time like the fs-verity file digest is. > > If you'd like to solve this problem at the IMA layer instead, by storing the > full file digest in an xattr and signing both the full file digest and fs-verity > file digest together, that would achieve the same goal of making the full file > digest available, and wouldn't require any changes to fs-verity. This would > assume that the file would be signed, though. What about audit-only mode > without signatures; is that something you care about? > > Alternatively, maybe this problem doesn't need to be solved at all and IMA would > be fine with the fs-verity file digest only, and not need the full file hash > too. I don't know the answer to that; I think it's up to you to decide. I just posted v1 which implements option 1, including the fsverity file digest in the measurement list. Both option 2 or including the actual file hash, will require a new template format with two digests. Mimi