On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 13:32 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: > On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 09:23 -0600, Eric Snowberg wrote: > > > On Aug 19, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 14:38 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 20:20 -0400, Eric Snowberg wrote: > > > > > Downstream Linux distros try to have a single signed kernel for each > > > > > architecture. Each end-user may use this kernel in entirely different > > > > > ways. Some downstream kernels have chosen to always trust platform keys > > > > > within the Linux trust boundary for kernel module signing. These > > > > > kernels have no way of using digital signature base IMA appraisal. > > > > > > > > > > This series introduces a new Linux kernel keyring containing the Machine > > > > > Owner Keys (MOK) called .mok. It also adds a new MOK variable to shim. > > > > > > > > I would name it as ".machine" because it is more "re-usable" name, e.g. > > > > could be used for similar things as MOK. ".mok" is a bad name because > > > > it binds directly to a single piece of user space software. > > > > > > Nayna previously said, > > > "I believe the underlying source from where CA keys are loaded might vary > > > based on the architecture (".mok" is UEFI specific.). The key part is > > > that this new keyring should contain only CA keys which can be later > > > used to vouch for user keys loaded onto IMA or secondary keyring at > > > runtime. It would be good to have a "ca" in the name, like .xxxx-ca, > > > where xxxx can be machine, owner, or system. I prefer .system-ca." > > > > > > The CA keys on the MOK db is simply the first root of trust being > > > defined, but other roots of trust are sure to follow. For this reason, > > > I agree naming the new keyring "mok" should be avoided. > > > > As I said previously, I’m open to renaming, I just would like to have an > > agreement on the new name before changing everything. The current proposed > > names I have heard are “.machine" and ".system-ca". Is there a preference > > the maintainers feel is appropriate? If so, please let me know and I’ll > > rename it. Thanks. > > > > Jarkko, I think the emphasis should not be on "machine" from Machine > Owner Key (MOK), but on "owner". Whereas Nayna is focusing more on the > "_ca" aspect of the name. Perhaps consider naming it > "system_owner_ca" or something along those lines. What do you gain such overly long identifier? Makes no sense. What is "ca aspect of the name" anyway? /Jarkko