Hi Liqiong, On 8/20/21 12:15 PM, 李力琼 wrote: > Hi, Simon: > > This solution is better then rwsem, a temp "ima_rules" variable should > can fix. I also have a another idea, with a little trick, default list > can traverse to the new list, so we don't need care about the read side. > > here is the patch: > > @@ -918,8 +918,21 @@ void ima_update_policy(void) > list_splice_tail_init_rcu(&ima_temp_rules, policy, synchronize_rcu); > > if (ima_rules != policy) { > + struct list_head *prev_rules = ima_rules; > + struct list_head *first = ima_rules->next; > ima_policy_flag = 0; > + > + /* > + * Make the previous list can traverse to new list, > + * that is tricky, or there is a deadly loop whithin > + * "list_for_each_entry_rcu(entry, ima_rules, list)" > + * > + * After update "ima_rules", restore the previous list. > + */ I think this could be rephrased to be a tad clearer, I am not quite sure how I must interpret the first sentence of the comment. > + prev_rules->next = policy->next; > ima_rules = policy; > + syncchronize_rcu(); I'm a bit puzzled as you seem to imply in the mail this patch was tested, but there is no 'syncchronize_rcu' (with two 'c') symbol in the kernel. Was that a copy/paste error? Or maybe you forgot the 'not' in "This patch has been tested"? These errors happen, and I am myself quite an expert in doing them :) > + prev_rules->next = first; > > > The side effect is the "ima_default_rules" will be changed a little while. > But it make sense, the process should be checked again by the new policy. > > This patch has been tested, if will do, I can resubmit this patch.> > How about this ? Correct me if I'm wrong, here is how I think I understand you patch. We start with a situation like that (step 0): ima_rules --> List entry 0 (head node) = ima_default_rules <-> List entry 1 <-> List entry 2 <-> ... <-> List entry 0 Then we decide to update the policy for the first time, so 'ima_rules [&ima_default_rules] != policy [&ima_policy_rules]'. We enter the condition. First we copy the current value of ima_rules (&ima_default_rules) to a temporary variable 'prev_rules'. We also create a pointer dubbed 'first' to the entry 1 in the default list (step 1): prev_rules ------------- \/ ima_rules --> List entry 0 (head node) = ima_default_rules <-> List entry 1 <-> List entry 2 <-> ... <-> List entry 0 /\ first -------------------------------------------------------------- Then we update prev_rules->next to point to policy->next (step 2): List entry 1 <-> List entry 2 <-> ... -> List entry 0 /\ first (notice that list entry 0 no longer points backwards to 'list entry 1', but I don't think there is any reverse iteration in IMA, so it should be safe) prev_rules ------------- \/ ima_rules --> List entry 0 (head node) = ima_default_rules | | ------------------------------------------- \/ policy --> policy entry 0' (head node) = ima_policy_rules <-> policy entry 1' <-> policy entry 2' <-> .... <-> policy entry 0' We then update ima_rules to point to ima_policy_rules (step 3): List entry 1 <-> List entry 2 <-> ... -> List entry 0 /\ first prev_rules ------------- \/ ima_rules List entry 0 (head node) = ima_default_rules | | | | | ------------------------------------------ --------------- | \/ \/ policy --> policy entry 0' (head node) = ima_policy_rules <-> policy entry 1' <-> policy entry 2' <-> .... <-> policy entry 0' /\ first -------------------------------------------------------------- Then we run synchronize_rcu() to wait for any RCU reader to exit their loops (step 4). Finally we update prev_rules->next to point back to the ima policy and fix the loop (step 5): List entry 1 <-> List entry 2 <-> ... -> List entry 0 /\ first prev_rules ---> List entry 0 (head node) = ima_default_rules <-> List entry 1 <-> List entry 2 <-> ... <-> List entry 0 /\ first (now useless) ima_rules | | | --------------- \/ policy --> policy entry 0' (head node) = ima_policy_rules <-> policy entry 1' <-> policy entry 2' <-> .... <-> policy entry 0' The goal is that readers should still be able to loop (forward, as we saw that backward looping is temporarily broken) while in steps 0-4. I'm not completely sure what would happen to a client that started iterating over ima_rules right after step 2. Wouldn't they be able to start looping through the new policy as 'List entry 0 (head node) = ima_default_rules' points to ima_policy_rules? And if they, wouldn't they loop until the write to 'ima_rule' at step 3 (admittedly very shortly thereafter) completed? And would the compiler be allowed to optimize the read to 'ima_rules' in the list_for_each_entry() loop, thereby never reloading the new value for 'ima_rules', and thus looping forever, just what we are trying to avoid? Overall, I'm tempted to say this is perhaps a bit too complex (at least, my head tells me it is, but that may very well be because I'm terrible at concurrency issues). Honestly, in this case I think awaiting input from more experienced kernel devs than I is the best path forward :-) > > ---------- > Regards, > liqiong > Thanks, Simon