Re: [PATCH v2] dm verity: Add support for signature verification with 2nd keyring

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On 16/10/2020 10:49, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
On 16/10/2020 10:29, Mickaël Salaün wrote:

On 15/10/2020 18:52, Mike Snitzer wrote:
Can you please explain why you've decided to make this a Kconfig CONFIG
knob?  Why not either add: a dm-verity table argument? A dm-verity
kernel module parameter? or both (to allow a particular default but then
per-device override)?

The purpose of signed dm-verity images is to authenticate files, or said
in another way, to enable the kernel to trust disk images in a flexible
way (i.e. thanks to certificate's chain of trust). Being able to update
such chain at run time requires to use the second trusted keyring. This
keyring automatically includes the certificate authorities from the
builtin trusted keyring, which are required to dynamically populate the
secondary trusted keyring with certificates signed by an already trusted
authority. The roots of trust must then be included at build time in the
builtin trusted keyring.

To be meaningful, using dm-verity signatures implies to have a
restricted user space, i.e. even the root user has limited power over
the kernel and the rest of the system. Blindly trusting data provided by
user space (e.g. dm-verity table argument, kernel module parameter)
defeat the purpose of (mandatory) authenticated images.


Otherwise, _all_ DM verity devices will be configured to use secondary
keyring fallback.  Is that really desirable?

That is already the current state (on purpose).

I meant that when DM_VERITY_VERIFY_ROOTHASH_SIG is set, dm-verity
signature becomes mandatory. This new configuration
DM_VERITY_VERIFY_ROOTHASH_SIG_SECONDARY_KEYRING extend this trust to the
secondary trusted keyring, which contains certificates signed (directly
or indirectly) by CA from the builtin trusted keyring.

So yes, this new (optional) configuration *extends* the source of trust
for all dm-verity devices, and yes, it is desirable. I think it should
have been this way from the beginning (as for other authentication
mechanisms) but it wasn't necessary at that time.

Well, I understand why you need a config option here.
And using the secondary keyring actually makes much more sense to me than
the original approach.

But please do not forget that dm-verity is sometimes used in different
contexts where such strict in-kernel certificate trust is unnecessary.
With your configure options set, you deliberately remove the possibility
to configure such devices.
I understand that it is needed for "trusted" systems, but we should be clear
in the documentation.
Maybe also add note to /Documentation/admin-guide/device-mapper/verity.rst ?
We already mention DM_VERITY_VERIFY_ROOTHASH_SIG there.

The current userspace configuration through veritysetup does not need
any patches for your patch, correct?

Thanks,
Milan




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