Re: [PATCH] Fix Atmel TPM crash caused by too frequent queries

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On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 00:09 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 01:48:15PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 18:37 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 07:54:58AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 05:16 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 03:11:39PM -0700, James Bottomley
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 2020-09-27 at 22:59 -0700, Hao Wu wrote:
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > However, there is another possibility: it's something
> > > > > > > > to do
> > > > > > > > with the byte read; I notice you don't require the same
> > > > > > > > slowdown for the burst count read, which actually reads
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > status register and burst count as a read32.  If that
> > > > > > > > really is the case, for the atmel would substituting a
> > > > > > > > read32 and just throwing the upper bytes away in
> > > > > > > > tpm_tis_status() allow us to keep the current
> > > > > > > > timings?  I
> > > > > > > > can actually try doing this and see if it fixes my
> > > > > > > > nuvoton.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If would be helpful if you can find the solution without
> > > > > > > reducing performance. I think it is a separate problem to
> > > > > > > address though. Maybe not worth to mix them in the same
> > > > > > > fix.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, if it works, no other fix is needed.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is what I'm currently trying out on my nuvoton with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > timings reverted to being those in the vanilla kernel.  So
> > > > > > far
> > > > > > it hasn't crashed, but I haven't run it for long enough to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > sure yet.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > James
> > > > > 
> > > > > OK, so the bus does not like one byte reads but prefers full
> > > > > (32-
> > > > > bit) word reads? I.e. what's the context?
> > > > 
> > > > It's not supported by anything in the spec just empirical
> > > > observation.  However, the spec says the status register is 24
> > > > bits: the upper 16 being the burst count.  When we read the
> > > > whole
> > > > status register, including the burst count, we do a read32. I
> > > > observed that the elongated timing was only added for the read8
> > > > code not the read32 which supports the theory that the former
> > > > causes the Atmel to crash but the latter doesn't.  Of course
> > > > it's
> > > > always possible that probabilistically the Atmel is going to
> > > > crash
> > > > on the burst count read, but that's exercised far less than the
> > > > status only read.
> > > 
> > > This paragraph is good enough explanation for me. Can you include
> > > it
> > > to the final commit as soon as we hear how your fix works for
> > > Hao?
> > 
> > Sure.  I'm afraid I have to report that it didn't work for me.  My
> > Nuvoton is definitely annoyed by the frequency of the prodding
> > rather
> > than the register width.
> 
> Sorry, this might have been stated at some point but what type of bus
> is it connected with?

It's hard to tell: this is my Dell Laptop, but I'd have to bet LPC.

> Does it help in any way to tune the frequency?

Of the bus?  We simply don't have access: a TIS TPM is projected at a
specific memory mapped address and all the conversion to the LPC back
end is done by memory read/write operations.  The TPM itself has a
clock but doesn't give the TIS interface software control.

> I also wonder if we could adjust the frequency dynamically. I.e.
> start with optimistic value and lower it until finding the sweet
> spot.

The problem is the way this crashes: the TPM seems to be unrecoverable.
If it were recoverable without a hard reset of the entire machine, we
could certainly play around with it.  I can try alternative mechanisms
to see if anything's viable, but to all intents and purposes, it looks
like my TPM simply stops responding to the TIS interface.

James





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