On Tue, 2019-01-01 at 11:38 -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > On Tue, 2019-01-01 at 17:15 +0100, Michael Niewöhner wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-12-31 at 16:17 -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > On Sun, 2018-12-30 at 14:22 +0100, Michael Niewöhner wrote: > > > > > > > > difference is that on a cold boot, the TPM takes longer to initialize. > > > > > > > > Well, as I said. Waiting for 10, 20 or even 60 seconds in the boot > > > > manager > > > > does > > > > not solve the problem. So the problem is NOT that the TPM takes longer > > > > to > > > > initialize. Even adding a delay of 20 seconds before TPM init does not > > > > solve > > > > that while that should be more than enough time. > > > > > > The purpose of commenting out the TPM2 selftest was to minimize the > > > TPM initialization delay, so that the TPM is ready before IMA. After > > > James' patch that wasn't needed anymore. > > > > > > Looking back at this thread, I see you're using systemd-boot, not > > > grub2. When you commented out the systemd-boot timeout, IMA found the > > > TPM. The question is why isn't the TPM ready with the timeout before > > > IMA (like above)? Has systemd-boot done the selftest? > > > > I am not sure wether systemd-boot touches TPM at all but I get the same > > behaviour with syslinux-efi. > > From looking at the source code, it depends on whether systemd was > compiled with ENABLE_TPM enabled(eg. src/boot/efi/boot.c, > src/boot/efi/measure.c, src/boot/efi/stub.c). Debian build it with TPM enabled. I just checked syslinux-efi which does not do anything TPM-related. > > Mimi >