On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2018-03-19 at 14:37 +0000, Martin Townsend wrote: > [...] >> The problem was because systemd couldn't create directories for the >> mounts /dev/shm and /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd, it was returning -ENOKEY. > > There's a disconnect between what ima-evm-utils supports and the > kernel. This sounds like the kernel you're using has directory > support, which has not been upstreamed. > >> After investigating it looks like I need to set a key for HMAC to stop >> the mkdir failing which I didn't appreciate I needed with a pre-signed >> image. > >> I have a question on this, looking at the IMA code it will try and >> replace my signatures with the HMAC unless the immutable attribute is >> set, is this correct? > > EVM will replace the file signature with an HMAC, unless the > filesystem is mounted r/o, is immutable, or is signed with the new EVM > portable and immutable signature. > >> In the evmctl utility there's mention of an evm >> immutable flag but I see nothing in the kernel code that supports >> this. Is this a feature that never made it into the kernel? or is it >> there but I've missed it? > > The portable and immutable EVM signature is being added only in this > release (linux-4.16). > >> Second question, I have no TPM module so do I need to add a key for >> HMAC or is there another way? It's not a problem if I have to add a >> key I just want to make 100% sure I have to before patching systemd or >> creating my own init process that adds the key before handing over to >> systemd. > > systemd already has support for loading an EVM key. > > The EVM encrypted key could be based on either a TPM trusted key or a > user key, without the HW guarantees of the private key not being > exposed in the clear. If you don't need an EVM key, then without a > TPM, you're probably better off backporting the new portable and > immutable EVM key. I've taken a look at the kernel patch "EVM: Add support for portable signature format" and this looks like the exact feature I've been looking for :) and it applied fairly cleanly to 4.9 with just a couple of easy manual edits. I upgraded to the latest 1.1 ima-evm-utils on my host system but I can't sign any files with the --portable flag. (I've added the function failing to the log_err function) $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=build/src/.libs sudo ./build/src/.libs/evmctl sign --imasig -v -o --generation 0 --uuid --key /ws/rufilla/curtisswright/cwr-signing-authority/ca/ima/inter/private/ima-privkey.pem /mnt/ubi/usr/bin/nsenter hash: ccb3b93abd61cd1403ce00adbdbc1a75f2d5e9fb evm/ima signature: 264 bytes 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 generation: 0 no xattr: security.selinux no xattr: security.SMACK64 name: security.ima, size: 265 no xattr: security.capability sign_evm: calc_evm_hash returned 20 hash: ad2747d58d06fe7ecf3fea272b68c058c4298941 evm/ima signature: 264 bytes sign_evm: sign_hash returned 264 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 sign_evm: setxattr security.evm failed: /mnt/ubi/usr/bin/nsenter : errno: Operation not permitted (1) errno: Operation not permitted (1) Yet without --portable it signs the file fine. $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=build/src/.libs sudo ./build/src/.libs/evmctl sign --imasig -v --generation 0 --uuid --key /ws/rufilla/curtisswright/cwr-signing-authority/ca/ima/inter/private/ima-privkey.pem /mnt/ubi/usr/bin/nsenter hash: ccb3b93abd61cd1403ce00adbdbc1a75f2d5e9fb evm/ima signature: 264 bytes 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 generation: 0 no xattr: security.selinux no xattr: security.SMACK64 name: security.ima, size: 265 no xattr: security.capability sign_evm: calc_evm_hash returned 20 hash: d1f22a34a86efc9f15345a39dae2e0c169373d75 evm/ima signature: 264 bytes sign_evm: sign_hash returned 264 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 I've tried removing various parameters from evmctl but it still fails. The only difference I can see in the code path is if (evm_portable) sig[0] = EVM_XATTR_PORTABLE_DIGSIG; else sig[0] = EVM_IMA_XATTR_DIGSIG; before calling lsetxattr, so I followed lsetxattr in the kernel and I think it's going to end up at security_inode_setxattr in security.c which will then call evm_inode_setxattr which is going to fail on my Host PC (Ubuntu 16.04 with a 4.13 kernel ) as it doesn't support this new xattr data type: if (xattr_data->type != EVM_IMA_XATTR_DIGSIG) return -EPERM; Does this sound about right? Many Thanks, Martin. > > Mimi >