On Wednesday 18 December 2019 12:26:59 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 December 2019 12:02:24 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Friday 06 December 2019 09:40:48 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 10:11:14AM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 05 December 2019 12:03:05 Abhishek Pandit-Subedi wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 2:52 AM Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tuesday 03 December 2019 11:11:12 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 06:38:21PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday 03 December 2019 00:09:47 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Dmitry!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was looking again at those _IOW defines for ioctl calls and I have
> > > > > > > > another argument why not specify 'char *' in _IOW:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All ioctls in _IOW() specify as a third macro argument type which is
> > > > > > > > passed as pointer to the third argument for ioctl() syscall.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So e.g.:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > #define EVIOCSCLOCKID _IOW('E', 0xa0, int)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is called from userspace as:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > int val;
> > > > > > > > ioctl(fd, EVIOCSCLOCKID, &val);
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > #define EVIOCSMASK _IOW('E', 0x93, struct input_mask)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is called as:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > struct input_mask val;
> > > > > > > > ioctl(fd, EVIOCSMASK, &val);
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So basically third argument for _IOW specify size of byte buffer passed
> > > > > > > > as third argument for ioctl(). In _IOW is not specified pointer to
> > > > > > > > struct input_mask, but struct input_mask itself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And in case you define
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > #define MY_NEW_IOCTL _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 200, char*)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > then you by above usage you should pass data as:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > char *val = "DATA";
> > > > > > > > ioctl(fd, MY_NEW_IOCTL, &val);
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which is not same as just:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ioctl(fd, MY_NEW_IOCTL, "DATA");
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As in former case you passed pointer to pointer to data and in later
> > > > > > > > case you passed only pointer to data.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It just mean that UI_SET_PHYS is already defined inconsistently which is
> > > > > > > > also reason why compat ioctl for it was introduced.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, you are right. UI_SET_PHYS is messed up. I guess the question is
> > > > > > > what to do with all of this...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe we should define
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > #define UI_SET_PHYS_STR(len) _IOC(_IOC_WRITE, UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 111, len)
> > > > > > > #define UI_SET_UNIQ_STR(len) _IOC(_IOC_WRITE, UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 112, len)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not sure if this is ideal. Normally in C strings are nul-termined,
> > > > > > so functions/macros do not take buffer length.
> > > > > Except strncpy, strndup, snprintf, etc. all expect a buffer length. At
> > > >
> > > > This is something different as for these functions you pass buffer and
> > > > length of buffer which is used in write mode -- not for read mode.
> > > >
> > > > > the user to kernel boundary of ioctl, I think we should require size
> > > > > of the user buffer regardless of the data type.
> > > > >
> > > > > > _STR therefore in names looks inconsistent.
> > > > > The _STR suffix is odd (what to name UI_SET_PHYS_STR then??) but
> > > > > requiring the length seems to be common across various ioctls.
> > > > > * input.h requires a length when requesting the phys and uniq
> > > > > (https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/uapi/linux/input.h#n138)
> > > > > * Same with HIDRAW when setting and getting features:
> > > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/uapi/linux/hidraw.h#n40,
> > > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/samples/hidraw/hid-example.c#n88
> > > >
> > > > All these ioctls where is passed length are in opposite direction
> > > > (_IOC_READ) as our PHYS and UNIQ (_IOC_WRITE).
> > > >
> > > > I fully agree that when you need to read something from kernel
> > > > (_IOC_READ) and then writing it to userspace, you need to specify length
> > > > of userspace buffer. Exactly same as with userspace functions like
> > > > memcpy, snprintf, etc... as you pointed. Otherwise you get buffer
> > > > overflow as callee does not know length of buffer.
> > > >
> > > > But here we we have there quite different problem, we need to write
> > > > something to kernel from userspace (_IOC_WRITE) and we are passing
> > > > nul-term string. So in this case specifying size is not required as it
> > > > is implicitly specified as part of passed string.
> > >
> > > With the new IOCTL definitions it does not need to be a NULL-terminated
> > > string. It can be a buffer of characters with given length, and kernel
> > > will NULL-terminate as this it what it wants, not what the caller has to
> > > give.
> >
> > Hi Dmitry! I was thinking more about this problem and I will propose
> > alternative solution, but first with details...
> >
> > I think that we should use NULL terminated strings. Or better disallow
> > NULL byte inside string. Reason: all userspace application expects that
> > input device name would be NULL terminated which implies that in the
> > middle of name cannot be NULL byte.
> >
> > So this must apply also for new PHYS / UNIQ ioctl API. If we want in our
> > ioctl API to use buffer + size (with upper bound limit for size) instead
> > of passing NULL term string (with upper bound limit for string size)
> > then kernel have to add a leading NULL byte to string, plus check that
> > in the buffer there is no NULL byte. I guess this a very little
> > complicate code, but nothing which is problematic.
> >
> > And on the userspace part. Now when userspace want to pass constant
> > string for device name, it just call
> >
> > ioctl(fd, UI_SET_PHYS, "my name of device");
> >
> > After adding a new ioctl with buffer + size API, userspace would have to
> > call:
> >
> > ioctl(fd, UI_SET_PHYS_STR(strlen("my name of device")), "my name of device");
> >
> > which looks strange, so programmers would had to move device name into
> > new variable:
> >
> > const char *name = "my name of device";
> > ioctl(fd, UI_SET_PHYS_STR(strlen(name)), name);
> >
> > For me the old ioctl API looks easier to use (no need for strlen() or
> > extra variable), but this is just my preference of usage -- as it is
> > simpler for me. Maybe you would have different opinion...
> >
> > And now question: Why we have uinput_compat_ioctl()? It is there only
> > because size part of IOCTL number is different on 32bit and 64bit
> > systems. As we know size part of UI_SET_PHYS is wrong and does not make
> > sense...
> >
> > Would not it be better to change size of UI_SET_PHYS to just zero and
> > then when matching ioctl number just ignore size for this UI_SET_PHYS
> > ioctl? Same for UI_BEGIN_FF_UPLOAD_COMPAT and UI_END_FF_UPLOAD_COMPAT
> > added in: https://git.kernel.org/tip/tip/c/7c7da40
> >
> > And we would not have to deal with uinput_compat_ioctl() at all.
>
> Below is example how change for removing UI_SET_PHYS_COMPAT may look
> like. As header file is not changed and UI_SET_PHYS accepts any size
> argument, it therefore accept also 32bit and 64bit integer. So no
> existing 32bit applications which use UI_SET_PHYS on 64bit kernel would
> not be broken...
>
> Is not this better change then introducing a new UI_SET_PHYS_STR ioctl
> number? Because introduction of new IOCTL number has one big
> disadvantage: Userspace applications needs to support fallback to old
> number as older versions of kernels would be in use for a long time. And
> because kernel does not have to remove old IOCTL number for backward
> compatibility there is basically no need for userspace application to
> user new UI_SET_PHYS_STR IOCTL number...
Hello! I would like to remind this discussion as problem around a new
UI_SET_UNIQ ioctl is not solved yet and uniq property is really useful
for e.g. bluetooth (uinput) devices.
Dmitry, when you have a time, could you please look at this discussion
and decide how to go ahead?
> diff --git a/drivers/input/misc/uinput.c b/drivers/input/misc/uinput.c
> index fd253781b..b645210d5 100644
> --- a/drivers/input/misc/uinput.c
> +++ b/drivers/input/misc/uinput.c
> @@ -915,22 +915,6 @@ static long uinput_ioctl_handler(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd,
> retval = uinput_set_bit(arg, propbit, INPUT_PROP_MAX);
> goto out;
>
> - case UI_SET_PHYS:
> - if (udev->state == UIST_CREATED) {
> - retval = -EINVAL;
> - goto out;
> - }
> -
> - phys = strndup_user(p, 1024);
> - if (IS_ERR(phys)) {
> - retval = PTR_ERR(phys);
> - goto out;
> - }
> -
> - kfree(udev->dev->phys);
> - udev->dev->phys = phys;
> - goto out;
> -
> case UI_BEGIN_FF_UPLOAD:
> retval = uinput_ff_upload_from_user(p, &ff_up);
> if (retval)
> @@ -1023,6 +1007,22 @@ static long uinput_ioctl_handler(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd,
> case UI_ABS_SETUP & ~IOCSIZE_MASK:
> retval = uinput_abs_setup(udev, p, size);
> goto out;
> +
> + case UI_SET_PHYS & ~IOCSIZE_MASK:
> + if (udev->state == UIST_CREATED) {
> + retval = -EINVAL;
> + goto out;
> + }
> +
> + phys = strndup_user(p, 1024);
> + if (IS_ERR(phys)) {
> + retval = PTR_ERR(phys);
> + goto out;
> + }
> +
> + kfree(udev->dev->phys);
> + udev->dev->phys = phys;
> + goto out;
> }
>
> retval = -EINVAL;
> @@ -1042,8 +1042,6 @@ static long uinput_ioctl(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
> * These IOCTLs change their size and thus their numbers between
> * 32 and 64 bits.
> */
> -#define UI_SET_PHYS_COMPAT \
> - _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 108, compat_uptr_t)
> #define UI_BEGIN_FF_UPLOAD_COMPAT \
> _IOWR(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 200, struct uinput_ff_upload_compat)
> #define UI_END_FF_UPLOAD_COMPAT \
> @@ -1053,9 +1051,6 @@ static long uinput_compat_ioctl(struct file *file,
> unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
> {
> switch (cmd) {
> - case UI_SET_PHYS_COMPAT:
> - cmd = UI_SET_PHYS;
> - break;
> case UI_BEGIN_FF_UPLOAD_COMPAT:
> cmd = UI_BEGIN_FF_UPLOAD;
> break;
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/uinput.h b/include/uapi/linux/uinput.h
> index c9e677e3a..6bda2a142 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/linux/uinput.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/uinput.h
> @@ -142,6 +142,8 @@ struct uinput_abs_setup {
> #define UI_SET_LEDBIT _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 105, int)
> #define UI_SET_SNDBIT _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 106, int)
> #define UI_SET_FFBIT _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 107, int)
> +/* Argument is nul-term string and for backward compatibility is there
> + * specified char*, but size argument (char *) is ignored by this ioctl */
> #define UI_SET_PHYS _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 108, char*)
> #define UI_SET_SWBIT _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 109, int)
> #define UI_SET_PROPBIT _IOW(UINPUT_IOCTL_BASE, 110, int)
>
>
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Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@xxxxxxxxx
