On Sunday 06 May 2018 15:47:33 Pali Rohár wrote: > On Thursday 01 February 2018 11:29:45 Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > Hi Pali, > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:41:21AM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > Hi Dmitry! > > > > > > I'm observing a problem with internal touchpad (handled by psmouse.ko) > > > on Dell laptops connected to Dell E docking station. When I connect > > > external PS/2 keyboard to docking station then internal laptop touchpad > > > switch from multitouch absolute mode to relative bare PS/2 mode. > > > > > > And because ALPS driver in psmouse.ko is capable to process interleaved > > > bare 3-byte PS/2 packets with 6-byte ALPS packets (which handles > > > trackstick data on some ALPS models), ALPS driver does not show any > > > message about this "downgrade" from multitouch to bare mode. And > > > continue working in bare mode. > > > > > > When I rmmod psmouse and modprobe it again, then touchpad switch back to > > > multitouch mode. > > > > > > Mario told me that Dell Embedded Controller, which handle internal > > > keyboard, internal touchpad and external PS/2 keyboard, automatically > > > send RESET command to *all* those devices when external PS/2 keyboard is > > > connected. Therefore this is reason why touchpad downgrade to to bare > > > mode. And according to Mario, host system should issue vendor specific > > > PS/2 commands to re-initialize all PS/2 devices when this situation > > > happen. Mario also told me that Windows is doing this action. > > > > Yeah, I remember fun with Inspiron 8100 - when you dock it it woudl > > silently switch Synaptics touchpad into standard mode and it would not > > come back as Synaptics until you disconnect. And there was no > > notification to the kernel as far as I could tell. > > > > It could be that we need to monitor dock events and then kick reconnect > > of serio port, either from userspace via udev (I think that would be > > preferred), or in kernel. > > > > > > > > Every time when I connect external PS/2 keyboard to dock I see this > > > message in dmesg: > > > > > > Spurious ACK... Some program might be trying to access hardware directly. > > > > > > I see it also every time when I dock laptop into docking station (to > > > which is keyboard already connected). And it happens also when I connect > > > external PS/2 mouse to dock. > > > > > > Dmitry, how to handle this situation to re-initialize psmouse.ko when > > > external PS/2 device is connected to Dell E docking station? According > > > to Mario, this is how Dell Embedded Controller is designed and suppose > > > how OS should work with it. > > > > > > Manually rmmoding and modprobing for every docking/undocking laptop is > > > not ideal solution. > > > > > > Could it be possible to use that Spurious ATKBD_RET_ACK from atkbd.c be > > > handled on Dell systems (probably via DMI) as an event to reset and > > > reinitialize all PS/2 devices? > > > > So we need to figure out what exactly we are getting from the docking > > station in this case. We do try to handle the new device 0xaa 0x00 > > announcements: > > > > /* Check if this is a new device announcement (0xAA 0x00) */ > > if (unlikely(psmouse->packet[0] == PSMOUSE_RET_BAT && psmouse->pktcnt <= 2)) { > > if (psmouse->pktcnt == 1) { > > psmouse->last = jiffies; > > goto out; > > } > > > > if (psmouse->packet[1] == PSMOUSE_RET_ID || > > (psmouse->protocol->type == PSMOUSE_HGPK && > > psmouse->packet[1] == PSMOUSE_RET_BAT)) { > > __psmouse_set_state(psmouse, PSMOUSE_IGNORE); > > serio_reconnect(serio); > > goto out; > > } > > > > ... > > > > I am not sure where the "spurious ACK comes from". Can you enable i8042 > > debug before trying to dock and capture the data stream from the mouse? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Hi Dmitry! > > I enabled unmask_kbd_data and debug and here is output from dmesg. > > echo Y > /sys/module/i8042/parameters/debug > echo Y > /sys/module/i8042/parameters/unmask_kbd_data > > PS/2 keyboard is already connected in dock and laptop was just docked: > > [25461.552314] i8042: [6365474] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) > [25461.552319] atkbd serio0: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly. > [25462.707296] i8042: [6365763] ed -> i8042 (kbd-data) > [25462.851289] i8042: [6365799] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) > [25462.851303] i8042: [6365799] 00 -> i8042 (kbd-data) > [25462.858437] i8042: [6365801] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) > [25462.869512] i8042: [6365804] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) > [25462.869517] atkbd serio0: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly. > [25463.670515] i8042: [6366004] ed -> i8042 (kbd-data) > [25463.670647] i8042: [6366004] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) > [25463.670655] i8042: [6366004] 02 -> i8042 (kbd-data) > [25463.676769] i8042: [6366005] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) > > > Laptop is docked and PS/2 keyboard was just connected: > > [26571.014368] i8042: [6642848] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) > [26571.014380] atkbd serio0: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly. > > > In both cases there is no events from touchpad, only from keyboard. So > Dell EC silently reset PS/2 touchpad when PS/2 keyboard is attached. > > So I think we should capture 0xFA and on Dell machines we should > reinitialize PS/2 drivers. As there is really nothing more then 0xFA. Info about PS/2 mouse: In case I have laptop already docked and just connect PS/2 mouse there is absolutely no i8042 event. To check that mouse is worked I clicked button and then in dmesg appeared: [ 3945.481403] i8042: [986322] 09 <- i8042 (interrupt, 1, 12) [ 3945.482486] i8042: [986323] 00 <- i8042 (interrupt, 1, 12) [ 3945.483667] i8042: [986323] 00 <- i8042 (interrupt, 1, 12) [ 3945.483917] input: PS/2 ALPS Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input36 [ 3945.594926] i8042: [986351] 08 <- i8042 (interrupt, 1, 12) [ 3945.596062] i8042: [986351] 00 <- i8042 (interrupt, 1, 12) [ 3945.597203] i8042: [986351] 00 <- i8042 (interrupt, 1, 12) So we have no way to detect when external PS/2 mouse was connected to dock. But ALPS driver can deal with it and process these mouse events. And when I have already connected PS/2 mouse to the dock and I'm just putting laptop into dock, then I get following events: [ 4336.481381] i8042: [1084079] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) [ 4336.481388] atkbd serio0: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly. [ 4337.653275] i8042: [1084372] ed -> i8042 (kbd-data) [ 4337.949198] i8042: [1084446] fa <- i8042 (interrupt, 0, 1) [ 4337.949202] atkbd serio0: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly. [ 4338.623167] i8042: [1084615] ed -> i8042 (kbd-data) So again, no event from mouse, just from keyboard. Note that in these tests I have disconnected my PS/2 keyboard from dock. -- Pali Rohár pali.rohar@xxxxxxxxx
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