On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:25:21AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On 01/17/2018 01:53 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:30:10PM +0100, Marcus Folkesson wrote: > >> A driver should not enable an entire subsystem. > > > > I disagree. As you go through menuconfig and you encounter this option > > and you have the hardware and you want to enable it, you should be able > > to do so. Otherwise you enable bunch of functionality, then go back, > > see what new options appeared, enable them, go back, see if any more new > > options appeared, and so on. > > I've been thinking about this. If a user is using a distro .config file, > it most likely has USB support already enabled, so the description above will > not apply to them. If they are using some kernel-supplied defconfig file, > I still think that the description above will not apply to them since those > defconfig file will most likely have USB enabled if the target platform supports > USB. And if they are using some .config file that does not have USB support > enabled, it could be that way for a very good reason. If the target platform > does not support USB but the user enables (sets) JOYSTICK_XPAD (which selects > USB) but then their device does not work, they will be both disappointed and > confused. You mean their system has USB ports to plug in the XPAD but the target platform does not support USB? I doubt that happens, but it is supposed to be handled by "depends on USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD". If platform definitely does not have a host controller, then we'll hide drivers for USB devices. > > Anyway, I don't think that users will face the problem that you described > very often. But I understand what you are saying also. Yeah, I do not think we have a good config language/tools that allows easily turn on/off features, it's all different tradeoffs. Given that we had this "select USB/depends on USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD" for close to 10 years now, I'd prefer leaving it alone. Thanks. > > > > What exactly prompted this change? > > > >> > >> Signed-off-by: Marcus Folkesson <marcus.folkesson@xxxxxxxxx> > >> --- > >> drivers/input/joystick/Kconfig | 3 +-- > >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-) > >> > >> diff --git a/drivers/input/joystick/Kconfig b/drivers/input/joystick/Kconfig > >> index 332c0cc1b2ab..4a199cff8c68 100644 > >> --- a/drivers/input/joystick/Kconfig > >> +++ b/drivers/input/joystick/Kconfig > >> @@ -279,8 +279,7 @@ config JOYSTICK_JOYDUMP > >> > >> config JOYSTICK_XPAD > >> tristate "X-Box gamepad support" > >> - depends on USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD > >> - select USB > >> + depends on USB > >> help > >> Say Y here if you want to use the X-Box pad with your computer. > >> Make sure to say Y to "Joystick support" (CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV) > >> -- > >> 2.15.1 > >> > > > > > -- > ~Randy -- Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html