On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:55:40 -0700 Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:47:58AM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: > > On Tue, 9 May 2017 17:43:27 -0700 > > Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Hi Michal, > > > > > > On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 09:14:18PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: > > > > There is nothing mac-specific about this driver. Non-mac > > > > hardware with suboptimal built-in pointer devices exists. > > > > > > > > This makes it possible to use this emulation not only on x86 > > > > and ppc notebooks but also on arm and mips. > > > > > > I'd rather we did not promote from drivers/macintosh to other > > > platforms, but rather removed it. The same functionality can be > > > done from userspace. > > > > What is the status of this? > > The same as in above paragraph. > > > > > Do you reply to every patch to drivers/input that is not the the > > core infrastructure that you would rather drop the driver because > > it can be done is in userspace? > > > > It sure can be done. Remove everything but the bus drivers and > > uinput from drivers/input and the rest can be done in userspace. > > > > The question is who does it? > > > > Are you saying that you will implement the userspace equivalent? > > No, I spend my time mostly with the kernel. > > > > > If not then please do your job as maintainer and accept trivial > > patches for perfectly working drivers we have now. > > I am doing my job as a maintainer right now. The driver might have > been beneficial 15 years ago, when we did not have better options, > but I would rather not continue expanding it's use. > > The main problem with the driver is that the functionality it is not > easily discoverable by end users. And once you plumb it through > userspace to present users with options you might as well handle it > all in userspace. > > > > > If you want to move drivers/input into userspace I am not against it > > but I am not willing to do that for you either. > > Then we are at impasse. > > > > > > > > > What hardware do you believe would benefit from this and why? > > > > Any touchpad hardware where you cannot press two buttons at once to > > emulate the third button due to hardware design. And any touchpad > > hardware on which some of the buttons are broken when it comes to > > it. > > > > It is built into a notebook and works fine for moving the cursor but > > due to lack of usable buttons you still need a mouse to use the > > notebook. > > Have you tried simply redefining keymap of your keyboard to emit > BTN_RIGHT/BTN_MIDDLE? Both atkbd and HID keyboards support keymap > updates from userspace/udev/hwdb and if there is a driver that does > not support it I will take patches fixing that. Indeed, they do support it. Such keymap update just does not work as mouse button regardless of sending the BTN_* event. At least not in X11. So what is next? Thanks Michal -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html