On Thu, 5 Jan 2017, Benjamin Tissoires wrote: > For case 1, the hiddev documentation provides an ioctl to do the > init manually. A solution could be to retrieve the requested report > when EVIOCGUSAGE is called, in the same way hidraw does. I would be > tempted to not change the behavior and hope that we won't break any > userspace tool. I'd like to be applying the HID_QUIRK_NO_INIT_REPORTS removal as soon as possible so that it gets exposure in linux-next over the whole development cycle. I am however too conservative to ignore the potential hiddev breakage, I am afraid. This has a real potential of breaking systems, and administrators having hard time figuring out of happened; essentialy, this is userspace-visible behavior change (regression) for which we haven't done any long-term depreciation (such as printing a warning "please talk to your hiddev driver vendor" in case the driver seems to assume initialized reports) at least for a few years. I think that either doing it at a connect time, or during first EVIOCGUSAGE ioctl() call is a must. Otherwise, I'd be super-happy to finally get rid of this giant PITA. Thanks! -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html