On Wed, October 5, 2016 10:54 am, Frank Praznik wrote: > The best answer I can give is "not to my knowledge”. Rumble and LEDs > have standard kernel interfaces but obviously we can’t guarantee 100% that > nobody is using hidraw directly. Commercial games and engines aren't > running as root and thus can’t use hidraw so I think we can safely say > that no major commercial software will be broken by this. There are a couple of projects I know of, but I am unable to say whether they are still active or whether proposed changes will affect them... https://thp.io/2010/psmove/ http://moveonpc.blogspot.ca/ https://github.com/chrippa/ds4drv Audio output is one area of the DS4 which is not supported in kernel, maybe some renewed interest can get this working. I agree with Frank that we should move forward, if something gets broken we can work a better solution. Simon. acked-by: Simon Wood <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html