On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, David Herrmann wrote: > >> > Agreed, mostly. My only real concern is that this could be annoying >> > for the userspace developers who will need to target Linux and HIDAPI >> > separately. Admittedly the Linux support will be trivial. >> >> I see. I'll not stop you from using hidraw, I'd just not recommend it. >> Especially for security stuff I dislike exposing the whole HID device >> writable. But yeah, I guess you got my point. > > Alright, I am basically thinking loudly now, but how about we allow HID > drivers that would override default hidraw interface? > > I am very well aware of the fact that this could be opening a can of > worms, so we'll have to make it very restrictive. How about, let's say, we > allow HID drivers to provide custom hidraw interface (completely > overriding the one that HID core would normally create) only for cases > such as: > > - the intent is to expose only certain parts of a combined device > - the intent is to introduce some level of access control > > I.e. still no interference of kernel with data parsing allowed. Hmm. Would this be like a filter on hidraw actions? How would udev distinguish these special hidraw devices from normal hidraw devices? Also, for U2F, this could be a little awkward. There's some crazy fragmentation stuff to allow a U2F request to be split across HID requests, and I think a kernel driver would much rather get the original unfragmented application request. --Andy > >> > I can give the driver a try. It'll actually be simpler than the spec >> > makes it out, since a real kernel driver will have no need to >> > arbitrate with itself. >> >> I'll gladly review any custom HID drivers. Feel free to put me on CC >> when sending to linux-input. There's also a lot of examples in >> drivers/hid/ in case you need a head-start (especially if you need the >> raw_event callback). > > Same here, of course. > > Please always CC me in parallel to sending to linux-input@ to make sure > that the patch doesn't fall in between cracks. > > Thanks, > > -- > Jiri Kosina > SUSE Labs -- Andy Lutomirski AMA Capital Management, LLC -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html