Since this commit: commit 0db3bfc72adf0cb70f08dfe92e4040f64e25e205 HID: multitouch: decide if hid-multitouch needs to handle mt devices I get the following when I insert a smartjoy device (hid-sjoy driver): [ 3727.405037] usb 7-1: new low speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd [ 3727.709082] usb 7-1: New USB device found, idVendor=6666, idProduct=8802 [ 3727.709087] usb 7-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [ 3727.709092] usb 7-1: Product: TigerGame PS/PS2 Game Controller Adapter [ 3727.709095] usb 7-1: Manufacturer: WiseGroup.,Ltd [ 3738.002095] hid-multitouch 0003:6666:8802.0005: timeout initializing reports [ 3738.007861] input: WiseGroup.,Ltd TigerGame PS/PS2 Game Controller Adapter as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/input/input17 [ 3738.008137] smartjoyplus 0003:6666:8802.0005: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.00 Joystick [WiseGroup.,Ltd TigerGame PS/PS2 Game Controller Adapter] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0 [ 3738.008163] smartjoyplus 0003:6666:8802.0005: Force feedback for SmartJoy PLUS PS2/USB adapter Note the 10 second delay caused by the hid-multitouch error. If I understand it correctly, the problem is that hid-multitouch now has a catch-all usb-id field, and does a usbhid_init_reports() on the device without the quirk HID_QUIRK_NOGET. The HID_QUIRK_NOGET for this device is listed in the hid-sjoy.c driver itself rather than in hid-quirks.c; presumably the latter is handled correctly. Is there a different way of handling this rather than hid-multitouch messing with every usb device which identifies itself as hid? Alternatively, should all quirks for all devices be specified in hid-quirks.c and not in individual drivers? Sean -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html