On 06/04, Henrik Rydberg wrote: > > additional eyes would be very helpful I am puzzled. I don't understand what this patch does at all ;) Could you please provide a simple example or answer my questions? > >> + * During normal operation, with adequate buffer size, this method will not > >> + * block, regardless of the number of concurrent readers. I don't understand this "regardless of the number of concurrent" comment. buflock_read(br) modifies br.tail, it can't be used lockless. Or, do you mean that every reader should use its own buflock_reader? If yes. Afaics, we have one buflock_writer, and one buf "connected" to this buflock_writer. In that case I don't understand why this buf doesn't live in "struct buflock_writer", it can be char[]. This way both read/write macros do not need buf and size args. typeof(item) could be used for read/write into this buf. But still I can't understand how this all works. > >> +#define buflock_read(br, bw, buf, size, item) \ > >> + do { \ > >> + unsigned int _h, _nh; \ > >> + do { \ > >> + _h = bw.head; \ > >> + smp_rmb(); \ > >> + item = buf[br.tail]; \ > >> + smp_rmb(); \ > >> + _nh = bw.next_head; \ > >> + smp_rmb(); \ > >> + } while (unlikely(br.tail - _h < _nh - _h)); \ > >> + br.tail = (br.tail + 1) & ((size) - 1); \ > >> + } while (0) How can the reader know there is something new/valid in buf it can read? I guess it should call buflock_sync_reader() at least once, to "attach" to the writer/buf, and then check buflock_reader_empty() ? But. If the reader calls buflock_read() constantly, sooner or later buflock_reader_empty() becomes T again. Probably the reader should call buflock_sync_reader() + check buflock_reader_empty() == F every time before buflock_read() ? In this case I do not understand why do we have 2 separate helpers, and why do we need buflock_reader->head. Perhaps it is writer who calls buflock_sync_reader() and tells the reader it has the new data? In this case I do not understand the "feeding many readers" part. And in any case I do not understand which guarantees this API provides. Whatever we do, buflock_read() can race with the writer and read the invalid item. Suppose that buflock_read(br, item) gets the preemption "inside" of item = buf[br.tail] asignment. The writer calls buflock_write() SIZE times. The reader resumes, continues its memcpy() operation, and suceeds. But the "item" it returns is not consistent, it is neither the old value nor the new. No? Oleg. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html