Hi, just recently I purchased two data acquisition HID devices that pretend to be joysticks[1], because that way no special kernel drivers are required, and because they are usually used for joystick-like purposes. The devices identify themselves as idVendor 0x16c0 idProduct 0x05ba iManufacturer 1 Leo Bodnar iProduct 2 BU0836A Interface iSerial 3 A10123 The Linux kernel creates the HID/"joystick name" from only iManufacturer and iProduct, ignoring iSerial. That way, JSIOCGNAME returns the same string for all such devices, making an actual identification impossible. joystick-api.txt says about JSIOCGNAME: #define JSIOCGNAME(len) /* get identifier string char */ ... JSIOCGNAME(len) allows you to get the name string of the joystick But this isn't actually true. "Leo Bodnar BU0836A Interface" is only the name of the product, but not of the actual (joystick or whatever) device. If you have more of these devices on the bus, then software has no way to know which is which -- which is the one with the temperature sensor on axis 0 etc. (Apart from doing all the USB querying itself, of course.) The patch below fixed the problem for me. But, certainly, the current (mis)behaviour wasn't an accident, but intentional. But what was the intention? What happens if I attach two actual identical joysticks? What's the purpose of them having the same name on the system under /dev/input/{js,event}? Not even two (human) identical twins have the same first name, and for a reason! I'm aware that at the moment, some software could rely on the fact that a joystick name is just a generic product name, but that would be easy to fix. I'm only aware of one such application, but exactly in this case the serial number in the joystick name would actually be an improvement! m. [1] http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/ --- a/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c 2010-03-04 02:49:38.676850618 +0100 +++ b/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c 2010-03-04 03:03:43.269006052 +0100 @@ -1131,6 +1131,12 @@ strlcat(hid->name, dev->product, sizeof(hid->name)); } + if (dev->serial) { + if (hid->name[0]) + strlcat(hid->name, " ", sizeof(hid->name)); + strlcat(hid->name, dev->serial, sizeof(hid->name)); + } + if (!strlen(hid->name)) snprintf(hid->name, sizeof(hid->name), "HID %04x:%04x", le16_to_cpu(dev->descriptor.idVendor), -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html