On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:32 -0800, Trent Piepho wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Maxim Levitsky wrote: > > > > Its not the case. > > There are many protocols, I know that by experimenting with my universal > > remote. There are many receivers, and all have different accuracy. > > Most remotes aren't designed to be used with PC, thus user has to invent > > mapping between buttons and actions. > > Its is not possible to identify remotes accurately, many remotes send > > just a 8 bit integer that specifies the 'model' thus many remotes can > > share it. > > The signal recevied by the ir receiver contains glitches. Depending on the > receiver there can be quite a few. It is also not trivial to turn the raw > signal sent by the remote into a digital value, even if you know what to > expect. It takes digital signal processing techniques to turn the messy > sequence of inaccurate mark and space lengths into a best guess at what > digital code the remote sent. Exactly > > It's like turning raw VBI data into decoded ASCII teletext from a simulated > keyboard device, all in the kernel. You hit a nail on the head with this one. > > > Kernel job is to take the information from device and present it to > > userspace using uniform format, that is kernel does 1:1 translating, but > > doesn't parse the data. > > One thing that could be done, unless it has changed much since I wrote it > 10+ years ago, is to take the mark/space protocol the ir device uses and sent > that data to lircd via the input layer. It would be less efficient, but > would avoid another kernel interface. Of course the input layer to lircd > interface would be somewhat different than other input devices, so > it's not entirely correct to say another interface is avoided. I agree with this one, but it is very optional. I also want to add that lirc can and does behave just like an input device. It sends the parsed events using uinput, so your remote appears just like a keyboard. It can even act like a mouse, and btw I use that feature, and it works just fine. So lets put lirc into the kernel finally? Best regards, Maxim Levitsky -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html