On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Richie Ward <richies@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I own a G25, Can you write out some of the knowledge you have acquired? First off a little info on the G25, and how it works on Windows (for those unfamiliar). The device allows up to 900 degrees of wheel rotation (with force feedback), it has a "H" style shifter, and it has three foot pedals (gas, brake and clutch). It has a total of six axes and nineteen buttons. How many axes/buttons are reported depends on what mode the wheel is in. It also has other settings like the limits of wheel rotation. The wheel can be set to only be allowed to turn as little as 40 degrees. On Windows, Logitech Profiler allows the user to change the wheel rotation range, along with other settings. When the wheel starts up, the Logitech drivers on Windows send a command to the device to put it into its native mode, so that all the axes/buttons are present. In Linux, when the wheel starts up, it is in legacy mode, and only four axes and twelve buttons are available. I believe this causes the clutch and shifter to not work as well, if I understand correctly. Also, the device is limited to its default wheel rotation range of 200 degrees, and the user-oriented tools to change wheel settings do not exist in Linux. Another thing missing from all the steering wheel drivers for Linux is the ability to separate the pedal axes. Basically, most steering wheels act by default as a generic HID joystick device with two axes, to ensure backwards-compatibility with games that only support joysticks with two axes. These two axes are the steering axis, and a combined brake/gas axis. When the two pedal axes are combined as one, the pedals do not act quite normally. When the brake is pressed by itself, the combined axis goes negative; while the gas is pressed by itself, the combined axis goes positive. When both pedals are pressed simultaneously they cancel each other out. To fix this, the Linux steering wheel drivers need to be able to change from combined to separated pedal axes with a user-controllable tool similar to the Logitech Profiler in Windows. For Logitech devices, the raw pedal data is available as a USB stream unreported when acting as a standard HID device. Through a contact at Logitech I have been given the information to fix the deficiencies in the current Linux steering wheel drivers as outlined above. I have posted a lot of this information already on the message boards at VDrift.net. This thread [1] contains a Python tool to send some commands to the DFP/G25. It was made for the G25 and apparently works well for it, but this and other functionality needs to be added to the kernel driver. It doesn't quite work for the DFP in my experience because of some other issues (see my previous posts). Much of the information I obtained was posted here [2]. I have some other details and tidbits that might be useful. There are some other threads on the VDrift forums with a good bit of information on the force-feedback and other details for the G25 and other wheels, I'll be happy to link it if anyone's interested. I haven't had much time lately to start hacking on this, but hopefully I will by this weekend at the latest. Chris [1] http://vdrift.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=866 [2] http://vdrift.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=7755#7755 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-input" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
