On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 16:39, Arvind Sankar <nivedita@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > > (add Peter, Leif and Daniel) > > > > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 09:43, Dave Young <dyoung@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On 04/06/20 at 02:06pm, Arvind Sankar wrote: > > > > Commit > > > > > > > > 3ee372ccce4d ("x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from > > > > bzImage") > > > > > > > > removed the .bss section from the bzImage. > > > > > > > > However, while a PE loader is required to zero-initialize the .bss > > > > section before calling the PE entry point, the EFI handover protocol > > > > does not currently document any requirement that .bss be initialized by > > > > the bootloader prior to calling the handover entry. > > > > > > > > When systemd-boot is used to boot a unified kernel image [1], the image > > > > is constructed by embedding the bzImage as a .linux section in a PE > > > > executable that contains a small stub loader from systemd together with > > > > additional sections and potentially an initrd. As the .bss section > > > > within the bzImage is no longer explicitly present as part of the file, > > > > it is not initialized before calling the EFI handover entry. > > > > Furthermore, as the size of the embedded .linux section is only the size > > > > of the bzImage file itself, the .bss section's memory may not even have > > > > been allocated. > > > > > > I did not follow up the old report, maybe I missed something. But not > > > sure why only systemd-boot is mentioned here. I also have similar issue > > > with early efi failure. With these two patches applied, it works well > > > then. > > > > > > BTW, I use Fedora 31 + Grub2 > > > > > > > OK, so I take it this means that GRUB's PE/COFF loader does not > > zero-initialize BSS either? Does it honor the image size in memory if > > it exceeds the file size? > > Dave, that comment was because the previous report was for systemd-boot > stub. > > Ard, should I revise the commit message to make it clear it's not > restricted to systemd-boot but anything using handover entry may be > affected? Maybe just a "for example, when systemd-boot..." and then a > line to say grub2 with the EFI stub patches is also impacted? > Well, the fact the /some/ piece of software is used in production that relies on the ill-defined EFI handover protocol is sufficient justification, so I don't think it is hugely important to update it. > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2/blob/f31/f/0001-Add-support-for-Linux-EFI-stub-loading.patch#_743 > > + kernel_mem = grub_efi_allocate_pages_max(lh.pref_address, > + BYTES_TO_PAGES(lh.init_size)); > > Looking at this, grub does allocate init_size for the image, but it > doesn't zero it out. > > This call also looks wrong to me though. It allocates at max address of > pref_address, which, if it succeeds, will guarantee that the kernel gets > loaded entirely below pref_address == LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR. In native > mode, if it weren't for the EFI stub copying the kernel again, this > would cause the startup code to relocate the kernel into unallocated > memory. On a mixed-mode boot, this would cause the early page tables > setup prior to transitioning to 64-bit mode to be in unallocated memory > and potentially get clobbered by the EFI stub. > > The first try to allocate pref_address should be calling > grub_efi_allocate_fixed instead. Thanks Arvind. I'm sure the Fedora/RedHat folks on cc should be able to get these logged somewhere.