Re: [PATCH RFC 00/11] blk-mq/libata/scsi: SCSI driver tagging improvements

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On 3/22/22 11:39, John Garry wrote:
Currently SCSI low-level drivers are required to manage tags for commands
which do not come via the block layer - libata internal commands would be
an example of one of these.

There was some work to provide "reserved commands" support in such series
as https://lore.kernel.org/linux-scsi/20211125151048.103910-1-hare@xxxxxxx/

This was based on allocating a request for the lifetime of the "internal"
command.

This series tries to solve that problem by not just allocating the request
but also sending it through the block layer, that being the normal flow
for a request. We need to do this as we may only poll completion of
requests through the block layer, so would need to do this for poll queue
support.

There is still scope to allocate commands just to get a tag as token as
that may suit some other scenarios, but it's not what we do here.

This series extends blk-mq to support a request queue having a custom set
of ops. In addition SCSI core code adds support for these type of requests.

This series does not include SCSI core handling for enabling reserved
tags per tagset, but that would be easy to add.

Based on mkp-scsi 5.18/scsi-staging @ 66daf3e6b993

Please consider as an RFC for now. I think that the libata change has the
largest scope for improvement...


Grand seeing that someone is taking it up. Thanks for doing this!

But:
Allocating a queue for every request (eg in patch 3) is overkill. If we want to go that route we should be allocating the queue upfront (eg when creating the device itself), and then just referencing it.

However, can't say I like this approach. I've been playing around with supporting internal commands, and really found two constraints really annoying:

- The tagset supports only _one_ set of payload via
  blk_mq_rq_(to,from)_pdu().
This requires each request to be of the same type, and with that making
it really hard for re-purposing the request for internal usage. In the
end I settled by just keeping it and skipping the SCSI command field.
If we could have a distinct PDU type for internal commands I guess things would be easier.

- The number of reserved commands is static.
With that it's getting really hard using reserved commands with low-queue depth devices like ATA; we only have 31 commands to work with, and setting one or two aside for TMF is really making a difference performance wise. It would be _awesome_ if we could allocate reserved commands dynamically (ie just marking a command as 'reserved' once allocated). Sure, it won't have the same guarantees as 'real' reserved commands, but in most cases we don't actually need that.

Maybe these are some lines we could investigate?
Hmm?

Cheers,

Hannes
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