On Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:39:57 AM David Miller wrote: > From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 17:15:16 +0100 > > > On Thursday, December 08, 2016 10:23:08 AM David Miller wrote: > >> From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 14:42:12 +0100 > >> > >> > Ping.. since there was no negative (or any other) feedback I think that > >> > this can be put into -next for some wider exposure.. > >> > >> I'm not going to apply this and break things on people, sorry. > > > > People building their own kernels with their own kernel config files > > and still using IDE drivers (deprecated in 2009 BTW) will have to > > update their setups to libata but otherwise nothing is supposed to > > break. So could you please explain in more detail what do you mean > > by "break things on people"? > > There is no proof that the PATA drivers work %100 reliably as well as > the IDE driver they replace for every possible chip and architecture. This is why only some IDE host drivers were nominated for removal. Please see cover-letter and patch descriptions for details. > Therefore the only safe thing is to keep the IDE drivers around > forever. Uh... > They are not a maintainence burdon, I rarely get more than 1 patch > each merge window and most of the time those are cleanups or for the > handling of a kernel wide API change rather than bug fixes. In the long-term perspective having two drivers for the same hardware is not good for the whole kernel as: - testing efforts are divided (while number of PATA systems goes down) - bugs/missing features in the new subsystem are not getting reported and fixed (since it is easier to just switch back to the old stack) - having duplicated support for the same hardware confuses users I was hoping for incremental removal of IDE host drivers and keeping only these that are really needed (while at the same time migrating them slowly to libata). I asked you about this in private mail in August 2015, you told me to bring this on the list. I did it (with these patches) in February 2016. After two pings and months of waiting for a reply all I get is is a quick NAK? Best regards, -- Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz Samsung R&D Institute Poland Samsung Electronics -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
