On 12/16/2012 06:21 AM, bl0 wrote:
Thanks for your response.
On Saturday 15 December 2012 22:55, Robert Hancock wrote:
On 12/15/2012 02:02 AM, bl0 wrote:
I have a PCI card based on Silicon Image 3114 SATA controller. Like many
people in the past I have experienced silent data corruption.
I am lucky to have a hardware configuration where it is easy to reproduce
this behavior with 100% rate by copying a file from a USB stick plugged
into another PCI card. My motherboard has nvidia chipset.
Going through messages and bug reports about this problem, someone
mentioned that PCI cache line size may be relevant. I did some testing
with different CLS values and found that the problem of data corruption
is solved if either
A). CLS is set to 0, before or after sata_sil kernel driver is loaded
# setpci -d 1095:3114 CACHE_LINE_SIZE=0
where 1095:3114 is the device id as shown by 'lspci -nn'. The same
command can also be used in grub2 (recent versions) shell or
configuration file before booting linux.
or
B). CLS is set to a sufficiently large value, only after sata_sil is
loaded.
# setpci -d 1095:3114 CACHE_LINE_SIZE=28
(value is hexadecimal, in 4-byte units, here it's 160 bytes)
What is a sufficiently large value depends on the value that is set
before the driver is loaded. If the value before the driver is loaded is
32 or 64 bytes, I have to increase it (after the driver is loaded) to 128
or 160 bytes, respectively.
In sata_sil.c source in sil_init_controller it writes some
hardware-specific value depending on PCI cache line size. By lowering
this value I can get it to work with lower CLS. The lowest value 0 works
with CLS 64 bytes. If the CLS is 32 bytes, I have to increase the CLS.
The meaning of that value from the datasheet is: "This bit field is used
to specify the system cacheline size in terms of 32-bit words. The upper
2 bits are not used, resulting a maximum size of 64 32-bit words. With
the SiI3114 as a master, initiating a read transaction, it issues PCI
command Read Multiple in place, when empty space in its FIFO is larger
than the value programmed in this register."
I think this value is likely the key. The cache line size itself
shouldn't make any difference with this controller as it only really
affects Memory Write & Invalidate (MWI) and the driver doesn't try to
enable that for this device. But it's being used to derive the value
written into this register.
In practice, on my hardware configuration, increasing the CLS after the
internal value has already been derived does make a difference.
Can you add in some output to figure out what values are being written
to this register
If the CLS is 32 or 64 bytes, it writes 2 or 3, respectively.
and see which values are working or not working?
That depends on the CLS. If the CLS is 32 bytes, it doesn't work (by work I
mean it's safe from data corruption) no matter what value I write to that
hardware register. If the CLS is 64 bytes, the only value that works is 0.
CLS A B
32 2 none
64 3 0
96 4 1
128 5 2
160 6 3
A: value written by default
B: maximum value safe from data corruption, based on my testing, probably
only applies to similar problematic hardware configurations.
Looking at this table you can see that increasing the CLS to a large value
can be a workaround after the driver has set the default value.
Hmm, looks like I was looking at the wrong register. The CLS itself is
described by what I posted, so changing that does affect things (i.e.
the threshold for Memory Read Multiple). The other value being written
into fifo_cfg is the FIFO Write Request Control and FIFO Read Request
Control field (that's why it's written to bits 0-2 and 8-10).
"The FIFO Write Request Control and FIFO Read Request Control fields in
these registers provide threshold settings for establishing when PCI
requests are made to the Arbiter. The Arbiter arbitrates among the four
requests using fixed priority with masking. The fixed priority is, from
highest to lowest: channel 0; channel 1; channel 2; and channel 3. If
multiple requests are present, the arbiter grants PCI bus access to the
highest priority channel that is not masked. That channel’s request is
then masked as long as any unmasked requests are present.
..
FIFO Read Request Control. This bit field defines the FIFO threshold to
assign priority when requesting a PCI bus read operation. A value of 00H
indicates that read request priority is set whenever the FIFO has
greater than 32 bytes available space, while a value of 07H indicates
that read request priority is set whenever the FIFO has greater than
7x32 bytes (=224 bytes) available space. This bit field is useful when
multiple DMA channels are competing for accessing the PCI bus.
FIFO Write Request Control. This bit field defines the FIFO threshold to
assign priority when requesting a PCI bus write operation. A value of
00H indicates that write request priority is set whenever the FIFO
contains greater than 32 bytes, while a value of 07H indicates that
write request priority is set whenever the FIFO contains greater than
7x32 bytes (=224 bytes). This bit field is useful when multiple DMA
channels are competing for the PCI bus."
The value apparently being written to the register according to the code
(and given that the value in the CLS register is in units of 32-bit
words) is (cache line size >> 3) + 1.
From looking at the history of this code (which dates from the pre-git
days in 2005) it comes from:
https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tglx/history.git;a=commit;h=fceff08ed7660f9bbe96ee659acb02841a3f1f39
which refers to an issue with DMA FIFO thresholds which could cause data
corruption. The description is pretty much hand-waving and doesn't
really describe what is going on. But it seems quite likely that
whatever magic numbers this code is picking don't work on your system
for some reason. It appears the root cause is likely a bug in the SiI
chip. There shouldn't be any region why messing around with these values
should cause data corruption other than that.
By default on my system this part of sata_sil code just overwrites the same
value (2 for 32 bytes CLS) that is already in place (as retrieved using
readw()) because the same value gets set (by the sata controller bios?)
after reboot. Changing this logic can work around data corruption problem.
There is another problem, sata link becoming inaccessible (I wrote more
about it in the first post), not affected by this part of sata_sil code. My
guess is that the main cause of the problems is elsewhere.
Data corruption is the biggest problem for me and these workarounds help
but another problem remains, sometimes when accessing multiple PCI
devices at the same time sata becomes inaccessible and times out with log
messages similar to:
[ 411.351805] ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
frozen
[ 411.351824] ata3.00: cmd c8/00:00:00:af:00/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma
131072 in
[ 411.351826] res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4
(timeout)
[ 411.351830] ata3.00: status: { DRDY }
[ 411.351843] ata3: hard resetting link
[ 411.671775] ata3: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
[ 411.697059] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/100
[ 411.697080] ata3: EH complete
Reboot is needed to access sata drives again. If I had the root
filesystem on a sata drive it would probably crash the system.
Another thing that may be related. Comparing lspci output reveals that
when accessing multiple PCI devices at the same time, the flag
DiscTmrStat (Discard Timer Status) gets toggled on for device "00:08.0
PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge". I don't know
if it's normal or not.
I'm not an expert on the whole PCI bridge/delayed completion stuff but
it appears that this means that a device (either the host bridge/CPU or
a device behind that bridge) initiated a delayed transaction for a read,
but then didn't retry the request to pick up the read data later. From
what I can tell this seems abnormal, at least in most cases.
Can you post the full lspci -vv output? Do the problems only occur if
there are multiple devices plugged in behind that bridge?
'lspci -vvv' output attached. Yes, I've only encountered problems with the
sata controller if at least one other external PCI card is in active use.
(The built-in devices which appear as PCI under another bridge do not cause
problems.)
Finally, the same simple test that I use on Linux does not produce data
corruption on FreeBSD. Either this problem doesn't occur there or it's
not trivial to reproduce.
This bug has been around for so long. I hope someone will find this
information useful.
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