On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Mark Knecht put forth on 7/3/2010 2:21 PM: >> >>> Note two things: >>> >>> 1) All the drives are always reported by BIOS at boot time. Now, that >>> doesn't guarantee that the drives spin up. It may only mean they can >>> be read by BIOS, but they are there as far as I can tell. They show up >>> in the boot screens and in BIOS itself if I drop in to play with >>> settings. >> >> I missed that. I thought I read it was both. My bad. >> > > Not a problem. It's good to be as clear as possible for all involved. > >>> QUESTION: There are some settings in BIOS for delaying the drive. (Or >>> something. I'm using the machine and not in BIOS) There were settings >>> from 0 to 35 seconds if I remember correctly. Possibly I should try >>> setting each drive to a different value to different value to stagger >>> power up? >> >> If that PSU meets published specs you shouldn't need delayed spin up with >> those 5 drives. >> > > I've not dropped into BIOS yet as the machine is in use but from the > Asus manual it appears the delay is not on a drive by drive basis so I > don't think I can do much there. > >>> If you need more info or have other ideas please let me know. >> >> Your answers here should have pretty much eliminated hardware issues as the >> cause, unless that particular mobo has BIOS or other issues I'm unaware of. >> >> I've found it's always best to ask about hardware with this kind of report >> just to eliminate possibilities. All that gear is good quality stuff. If the >> problem is due to hardware, it's because one of your components is defective, >> but we don't see evidence of that at this point. >> >> Also, TTBOMK, if a SATA drive motor doesn't spin up, the drive firmware won't >> report the drive as ready upstream, thus the BIOS won't list the drive. > > An off-list response suggested possibly setting some drive jumpers on > non-boot drives to power up in standby. Apparently the kernel will > then spin up those drives later? If I cannot stagger the drives in > BIOS then I will likely try that. Technically I guess I only need > /boot on sda to get the kernel booted. The mdadm RAID1 on sda/sdb/sdc > could start slightly later, and technically the RAID0 on sdd/sde could > start very late as there are only VMWare images on that drive. > > Cheers, > Mark > OK, I don't know if this is related but so far I cannot get the machine to boot if I set BIOS SATA configuration to AHCI. I believe that I have AHCI support as well as SATA support built into the kernel but when I set the BIOS to AHCI the machine just hangs saying it finds no medium. I assume that means no hard drive. I have to set SATA support to enhanced and then IDE to get the machine to boot at all. I did notice that my earlier kernel had the depreciated ATA/ATAPI support selected so I removed that from the kernel but it didn't change the results. The lshw listings below show the DATA controllers. The 20360/363 is (apparently) the eSATA controller going to the front panel. Nothing is attached there. The chipset supposedly handles 6 SATA ports - they seem to be arranged x4 & x2. TTBOMK I have the CDROM and the 3-drive RAID1 on the 4 port controller and the RAID0, which fails to be recognized more often - on the 2 port controller. I don't know how to prove that though. I'm unclear how mature the SATA support is for this chipset. Is there a chance that this is some bit that's not being sey reliably? Also, I misspoke earlier about the graphics adapter. It's actually an ATI Radeon 5770 in this machine. The 9500GT is in another machine. Thanks, Mark c2stable ~ # lshw -short -class storage H/W path Device Class Description ========================================================= /0/100/1c.4/0 storage 20360/20363 Serial ATA Controller /0/100/1c.4/0.1 storage 20360/20363 Serial ATA Controller /0/100/1f.2 scsi2 storage 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller /0/100/1f.5 scsi5 storage 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller c2stable ~ # lshw -short | grep SATA /0/100/1f.2 scsi2 storage 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller /0/100/1f.5 scsi5 storage 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller c2stable ~ # lshw -short | grep disk /0/100/1f.2/0 /dev/sda disk 500GB WDC WD5002ABYS-0 /0/100/1f.2/0.0.0 /dev/sdb disk 500GB WDC WD5002ABYS-0 /0/100/1f.2/1 /dev/sdc disk 500GB WDC WD5002ABYS-0 /0/100/1f.5/0.0.0 /dev/sdd disk 500GB WDC WD5002ABYS-0 c2stable ~ # NOTE ABOVE: /dev/sde not recognized on this boot. c2stable linux # lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation X58 I/O Hub to ESI Port (rev 13) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 13) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 13) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev 13) 00:14.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub System Management Registers (rev 13) 00:14.1 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub GPIO and Scratch Pad Registers (rev 13) 00:14.2 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Control Status and RAS Registers (rev 13) 00:14.3 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Throttle Registers (rev 13) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 1 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 3 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 5 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 6 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 90) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface Controller 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 68b8 03:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device aa58 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12) 05:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. 20360/20363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03) 05:00.1 IDE interface: JMicron Technology Corp. 20360/20363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03) 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12) 08:02.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. 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