Hi, On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Andreas Mohr wrote: > But, yeah, it could just be an illegal factory-shipped hardware config, ya know > (need to investigate actual setup here, maybe it turns out to be > "combined Master/Slave" jumpering - with one Master drive only...) OK, I researched this some more. When booting with the CDRW removed from the slot the IDENTIFY issue does NOT occur! This drive (Dell P/N 996NF) does not have any hardware jumper, but probably is configured via firmware variants (like many notebook drives seem to be). Visited BIOS settings, no clues or settings there. Not the faintest clue as to what the drive is configured as internally, although many notebook drives seem to be shipped as Cable Select (but definitely not all!!). At http://www.clave.gr.jp/ml/bsd-nomads/200011/msg00068.html , it's BSD(!) which is showing an identify retried exceeded error with the CRX700E !!!! Note that this seems to be a THINKPAD here, thus the other OEM (IBM) which there are CRX700E firmware updates available for. Some remotely useful (added for reference) URLs might be http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/348262-dell-2nd-hd-media-bay.html http://www.notebook-doctor.com/it-pi-n-DVD_Writer_for_Dell_Latitude_D510-pId-238000.html http://www.motherboardpoint.com/t43872-dimension-8200-is-it-cable-select.html http://www.wer-weiss-was.de/theme21/article4243889.html Hmm, now if this drive happened to be configured as Cable Select as I'd guess it is: do we have a problem here?? IOW are we mis-handling non-explicitly configured (i.e., CSEL) setups? ...but: when searching for the "identify retried exceeded" BSD error message the CRX700E-mentioning page is the _only_ one that comes up on Google!! (IOW, it strongly looks like this issue seems quite isolated to CRX700E drives only and we should find a way to implement an IDENTIFY-timeout-related blacklist flag, for CRX700E, somehow). ...right? (BTW, does a drive firmware have to do something special to obey Cable Select protocol properly, and would this thus indicate a firmware bug indeed?) Thanks, Andreas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html