On Saturday 11 October 2008, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11 2008, Borislav Petkov wrote: > > > >From my perspective the main gain of these patches is the increased > > > maintainability and sanity of the code, scalability improvements are > > > just an added bonus. > > > > and better code/improved scalability is a bad thing because... ?! > > It's a bad thing because nobody on earth cares about IDE scalability, JFYI: just yesterday I got mail proving otherwise. ;) > from a performance POV a modern SATA controller is just better on > several levels. I don't think anybody cares about IDE scaling on 8-16 > cores or more, simply because NOBODY is using IDE on such systems. > > As such, trying to improve locking is a pointless exercise. And that is > a bad thing, because code change invariably brings in code bugs. Then > see previous mail on lack of coverage testing, and it can naturally be > harmful. Your concerns were already addressed in my reply but I worry that having a discussion based on technical arguments is not your goal. Just to repeat: these patches are not hardware specific and obviously they are not going to be merged today, tomorrow or in a week (they are 2.6.29 material after months of time in pata tree / linux-next). > > > > rather like putting makeup on a corpse to me.. > > > > so _NOT_ true. > > Depends on what you think is the corpse. Since IDE is essentially dead > and frozen, it IS a corpse and the phrase is then very appropriate. This > is not a personal jab at the IDE guys and does not reflect on the > (mostly) good work they do, just a reflection on the state of IDE in > general. Interesting statement given that i.e. diffstat-wise pata tree has more than twice as much stuff queued up for 2.6.28 than "some other" trees (and we have history of being a _very_ conservative w.r.t. to needlessly moving code around in drivers/ide/). Please stop being silly and pushing your view/idea on what other people should be doing (not to mention ignoring real facts). Thanks, Bart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html