On Thursday 18 September 2008 13:18:45 Pavel Machek wrote: > On Wed 2008-09-17 11:04:05, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 09:45:21PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > On Fri 2008-09-12 09:59:47, Greg KH wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 01:35:54AM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote: > > > > > Shem Multinymous wrote: > > > > > >> That reduction comes because input device supports poll and > > > > > >> sysfs_notify_event() does about the same thing. The uesrland > > > > > >> daemon can just poll on a node and read data nodes when poll > > > > > >> event on the node triggeres. > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. > > > > > > There's another issue with the current sysfs interface, though: > > > > > > hdapsd needs to read (x,y,timestamp) tuples, whereas sysfs > > > > > > provides just x and y in separate attributes which cannot be read > > > > > > atomically together. We can add a sysfs file with "x y timestamp" > > > > > > readouts, though this is unusual for sysfs (and certainly > > > > > > incompatible with hwmon). > > > > > > > > > > Yes, right. Forgot about the atomicity part altogether. Thanks > > > > > for bringing it up. > > > > > > > > > > >> Unloading heads will be simple. Just echoing timeout in ms to > > > > > >> sysfs nodes, so I don't think it's a good idea to push out > > > > > >> actual unloading to another process especially as fork doesn't > > > > > >> inherit mlockall. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had in mind another daemon listening for "unload now" events, > > > > > > so no forking needed. > > > > > > This second daemon might make sense if we push the logic of > > > > > > deciding *which* disks to unload into userspace, since this logic > > > > > > is the same for the ThinkPad style and the HP style. > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... I can't (yet) see the benefit of having two separate > > > > > userland daemons. > > > > > > > > > > >> On a related note, is there any plan to merge tp_smapi to > > > > > >> mainline? It seems you put a lot of work into it and I don't > > > > > >> really see why it should stay out of tree. > > > > > > > > > > > > The only issue I'm aware of is finding a reasonably-named > > > > > > maintainer. On the technical side, the reviews on my lkml > > > > > > submission of thinkpad_ec+hdaps seemed good and all technical > > > > > > comments are since addressed. The code has been stable, > > > > > > well-tested and packaged by major distros for years. > > > > > > > > > > Cool, can you please post the patch to the lkml and cc Greg > > > > > Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxx>, Andrew Morton > > > > > <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> and me? > > > > > > > > Sorry, but no, I can't accept this code as it is coming from a "known > > > > anonymous" person containing information that it is not known where > > > > it came from. > > > > > > So... what are you worried about? > > > > Code created by access to specs that were not allowed to be published in > > GPL form by someone who wants to remain anonymous. > > That anonymous person may have problems if they signed NDA. > > I don't think they did, they even list the sources: > > * The embedded controller on ThinkPad laptops has a non-standard > interface, * where LPC channel 3 of the H8S EC chip is hooked up to IO > ports * 0x1600-0x161F and implements (a special case of) the H8S LPC > protocol. * The EC LPC interface provides various system management > services (currently * known: battery information and accelerometer > readouts). This driver * provides access and mutual exclusion for the EC > interface. > * > * The LPC protocol and terminology is documented here: > * "H8S/2104B Group Hardware Manual", > * > http://documentation.renesas.com/eng/products/mpumcu/rej09b0300_2140bhm.pdf > > H8S chip seems to be documented. Hmm, the EC is not directly used, but ACPI functions of the HP device are used. For the HP ACPI device: the ACPI functions can *very easily* be re-engineered (which is common for all laptop_acpi.ko drivers): ALRD -> is used by the driver to read out registers of the accelerometer ALWR -> is used by the driver to write a registers of the accelerometer BTW: HP likes to have support for their device. The acceleromter chip itself is docuemented in detail here: http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/12094/lis3lv02dl.pdf I also do not see any concerns. Greg: Can you please add this one or explain in more detail what else you like to see to get this integerated. Thanks, Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html