I have both a dvd RW drive & a cd rom drive connected the second ide interface on my motherboard with a via chipset, using pata_via I see timeout messages in the log & after some time both drives lockup and are unable to mount any disks. This problem is present in at least 2.6.22 & 2.6.23-rc5. This is a AMD Athlon X2 smp machine running fedora -- untainted. sorry I didn't spot this sooner but I don't use these drives all that often. Any suggestions for what is going wrong or how to get any more debug info? lspci -v 00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Unknown device 1415 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 32 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 20 Region 0: [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] Region 1: [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] Region 2: [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] Region 3: [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] Region 4: I/O ports at e400 [size=16] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- both drives are seen ok at boot time :- Sep 3 13:49:27 castor kernel: scsi2 : pata_via Sep 3 13:49:27 castor kernel: scsi3 : pata_via Sep 3 13:49:27 castor kernel: ata3: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00000000000101f0 ctl 0x00000000000103f6 bmdma 0x000000000001e400 irq 14 Sep 3 13:49:27 castor kernel: ata4: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0000000000010170 ctl 0x0000000000010376 bmdma 0x000000000001e408 irq 15 Sep 3 13:49:27 castor kernel: ata3.00: ATA-7: Maxtor 6B300R0, BAH41BM0, max UDMA/133 Sep 3 13:49:27 castor kernel: ata3.00: 586114704 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: ata4.00: ATAPI: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A, 1.04, max UDMA/33 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: ata4.01: ATAPI: TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H352A, TS03, max UDMA/33 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: ata4.00: configured for UDMA/33 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: ata4.01: configured for UDMA/33 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA Maxtor 6B300R0 BAH4 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 586114704 512-byte hardware sectors (300091 MB) Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 586114704 512-byte hardware sectors (300091 MB) Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sdb: sdb1 sdb2 Sep 3 13:49:28 castor kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk Sep 3 13:49:29 castor kernel: scsi 3:0:0:0: CD-ROM _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A 1.04 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 Sep 3 13:49:29 castor kernel: scsi 3:0:1:0: CD-ROM TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352A TS03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 this is the first timeout message Sep 3 14:12:48 castor kernel: ata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Sep 3 14:12:48 castor kernel: ata4.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 cdb 0x4a data 8 in Sep 3 14:12:48 castor kernel: res 40/00:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Sep 3 14:12:48 castor kernel: ata4: soft resetting port Sep 3 14:12:48 castor kernel: ata4.00: configured for UDMA/33 Sep 3 14:12:49 castor kernel: ata4.01: configured for UDMA/33 Sep 3 14:12:49 castor kernel: ata4: EH complete this gets repeated 3 or 4 times then changes to this Sep 3 14:16:45 castor kernel: ata4.00: limiting speed to UDMA/25:PIO4 Sep 3 14:16:45 castor kernel: ata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Sep 3 14:16:45 castor kernel: ata4.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 cdb 0x1e data 0 Sep 3 14:16:45 castor kernel: res 40/00:02:00:08:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Sep 3 14:16:45 castor kernel: ata4: soft resetting port Sep 3 14:16:45 castor kernel: ata4.00: configured for UDMA/25 Sep 3 14:16:46 castor kernel: ata4.01: configured for UDMA/33 Sep 3 14:16:46 castor kernel: ata4: EH complete repeats multiple times then Sep 3 14:23:27 castor kernel: ata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Sep 3 14:23:27 castor kernel: ata4.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 cdb 0x1e data 0 Sep 3 14:23:27 castor kernel: res 40/00:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Sep 3 14:23:27 castor kernel: ata4: soft resetting port Sep 3 14:23:27 castor kernel: ata4.00: configured for PIO4 Sep 3 14:23:28 castor kernel: ata4.01: configured for UDMA/33 Sep 3 14:23:28 castor kernel: ata4: EH complete Sep 3 14:23:28 castor kernel: sr 3:0:0:0: ioctl_internal_command return code = 8000002 Sep 3 14:23:28 castor kernel: : Sense Key : Aborted Command [current] [descriptor] Sep 3 14:23:28 castor kernel: : Add. Sense: No additional sense information Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: ata4.01: limiting speed to UDMA/25:PIO4 Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: ata4.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: ata4.01: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/b0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 0 Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: res 40/00:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: ata4: soft resetting port Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: ata4.00: configured for PIO4 Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: ata4.01: configured for UDMA/25 Sep 3 14:23:58 castor kernel: ata4: EH complete By this point neither drive will mount a disk. thanks Richard - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html