On Wed, Feb 15, 2023, at 16:15, Guenter Roeck wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 01:29:04PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: >> Create a new status 'dead' which conveys that a subsystem is >> unmaintained and scheduled for removal, and developers are free to >> behave as if it's already gone. Also, automated build tests should >> ignore such subsystems, or at least notify only those who are known to >> have an interest in the subsystem in particular. >> >> Given that Itanium/IA64 has no maintainer, is no longer supported in >> QEMU (for boot testing under emulation) and does not seem to have a user >> base beyond a couple of machines used by distros to churn out packages, >> let's mark it as dead. This shall mean that any treewide changes (such >> as changes to the EFI subsystem, which I maintain) can be made even if >> they might cause build or boot time regressions on IA64 machines. Also, >> mark the port as scheduled for removal after the next LTS release. >> > > Since this just came up, I very much prefer complete removal. I don't > see the point of keeping dead code in the tree. That is still hidden > maintenance effort. > > If this proliferates, we'll end up having to parse the MAINTAINERS file > for code marked "Dead" to ensure that we don't accidentally send e-mails > to the wrong people, or we risk getting complaints about sending reports > for such code. That puts extra burden on maintainers of automated test > beds, which I think is not really appropriate. If the code is dead, > remove it, period. > > For my part, I'll drop my test bed support immediately after this patch > made it in, following the guidance above. I agree. While the idea of waiting for an LTS release makes sense in general (and I did just that for the unused Arm board files), I don't see how that would help with the timing here: The only remaining distro with kernel updates is now Debian-ports, and the coming Bookwork release will apparently use the 6.1-LTS kernel, but as I understand, the mentioned (late-2023) LTS kernel will not be part either of the following (mid-2025) Debian release or this one, so keeping it for a year longer has all the extra cost without any real benefit. Arnd