Re: [PATCH v3 00/24] Remove COMMAND_LINE_SIZE from uapi
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- To: Heiko Carstens <hca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/24] Remove COMMAND_LINE_SIZE from uapi
- From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 09:58:17 +0100
- Cc: Alexandre Ghiti <alexghiti@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@xxxxxxx>, Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@xxxxxxxxxx>, Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Matt Turner <mattst88@xxxxxxxxx>, Vineet Gupta <vgupta@xxxxxxxxxx>, Russell King <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@xxxxxxx>, Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx>, Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@xxxxxxxxxx>, WANG Xuerui <kernel@xxxxxxxxxx>, Michal Simek <monstr@xxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "James E . J . Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Helge Deller <deller@xxxxxx>, Michael Ellerman <mpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@xxxxxxxxx>, Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@xxxxxxxxxx>, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxx>, Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Albert Ou <aou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Vasily Gorbik <gor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sven Schnelle <svens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Yoshinori Sato <ysato@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Rich Felker <dalias@xxxxxxxx>, "David S . Miller" <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxxxxx>, Borislav Petkov <bp@xxxxxxxxx>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, x86@xxxxxxxxxx, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@xxxxxxxxx>, Chris Zankel <chris@xxxxxxxxxx>, Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@xxxxxxxxx>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx>, linux-doc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-alpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-snps-arc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-ia64@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, loongarch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-m68k@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-mips@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-parisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linuxppc-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-riscv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-s390@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, sparclinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-xtensa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-arch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Heiko,
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 9:39 AM Heiko Carstens <hca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 08:49:01AM +0100, Alexandre Ghiti wrote:
> > This all came up in the context of increasing COMMAND_LINE_SIZE in the
> > RISC-V port. In theory that's a UABI break, as COMMAND_LINE_SIZE is the
> > maximum length of /proc/cmdline and userspace could staticly rely on
> > that to be correct.
> >
> > Usually I wouldn't mess around with changing this sort of thing, but
> > PowerPC increased it with a5980d064fe2 ("powerpc: Bump COMMAND_LINE_SIZE
> > to 2048"). There are also a handful of examples of COMMAND_LINE_SIZE
> > increasing, but they're from before the UAPI split so I'm not quite sure
> > what that means: e5a6a1c90948 ("powerpc: derive COMMAND_LINE_SIZE from
> > asm-generic"), 684d2fd48e71 ("[S390] kernel: Append scpdata to kernel
> > boot command line"), 22242681cff5 ("MIPS: Extend COMMAND_LINE_SIZE"),
> > and 2b74b85693c7 ("sh: Derive COMMAND_LINE_SIZE from
> > asm-generic/setup.h.").
> >
> > It seems to me like COMMAND_LINE_SIZE really just shouldn't have been
> > part of the uapi to begin with, and userspace should be able to handle
> > /proc/cmdline of whatever length it turns out to be. I don't see any
> > references to COMMAND_LINE_SIZE anywhere but Linux via a quick Google
> > search, but that's not really enough to consider it unused on my end.
> >
> > The feedback on the v1 seemed to indicate that COMMAND_LINE_SIZE really
> > shouldn't be part of uapi, so this now touches all the ports. I've
> > tried to split this all out and leave it bisectable, but I haven't
> > tested it all that aggressively.
>
> Just to confirm this assumption a bit more: that's actually the same
> conclusion that we ended up with when commit 3da0243f906a ("s390: make
> command line configurable") went upstream.
Commit 622021cd6c560ce7 ("s390: make command line configurable"),
I assume?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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