Re: [v3,11/41] mips: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h
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- To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [v3,11/41] mips: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h
- From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:57:57 +0000
- Cc: Leonid Yegoshin <Leonid.Yegoshin@xxxxxxxxxx>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@xxxxxxxxxx>, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx>, linux-arch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>, Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@xxxxxxxxx>, Joe Perches <joe@xxxxxxxxxxx>, David Miller <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-ia64@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linuxppc-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-s390@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, sparclinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-metag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-mips@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, x86@xxxxxxxxxx, user-mode-linux-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, adi-buildroot-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-xtensa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ralf Baechle <ralf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxxxxx>, ddaney.cavm@xxxxxxxxx, james.hogan@xxxxxxxxxx, Michael Ellerman <mpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Paul,
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 02:20:46PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 01:24:34PM -0800, Leonid Yegoshin wrote:
> > It is not so simple, I mean "local ordering for address and data
> > dependencies". Local ordering is NOT enough. It happens that current
> > MIPS R6 doesn't require in your example smp_read_barrier_depends()
> > but in discussion it comes out that it may not. Because without
> > smp_read_barrier_depends() your example can be a part of Will's
> > WRC+addr+addr and we found some design which easily can bump into
> > this test. And that design actually performs "local ordering for
> > address and data dependencies" too.
>
> As noted in another email in this thread, I do not believe that
> WRC+addr+addr needs to be prohibited. Sounds like Will and I need to
> get our story straight, though.
I think you figured this out while I was sleeping, but just to confirm:
1. The MIPS64 ISA doc [1] talks about SYNC in a way that applies only
to memory accesses appearing in *program-order* before the SYNC
2. We need WRC+sync+addr to work, which means that the SYNC in P1 must
also capture the store in P0 as being "before" the barrier. Leonid
reckons it works, but his explanation [2] focussed on the address
dependency in P2 as to why this works. If that is the case (i.e.
address dependency provides global transitivity), then WRC+addr+addr
should also work (even though its not required).
3. It seems that WRC+addr+addr doesn't work, so I'm still suspicious
about WRC+sync+addr, because neither the architecture document or
Leonid's explanation tell me that it should be forbidden.
Will
[1] https://imgtec.com/?do-download=4302
[2] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/569565DA.2010903@xxxxxxxxxx (scroll to the end)
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