Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] i2c: Enhance i2c_new_ancillary_device API

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Hi Biju,

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:00:19AM +0000, Biju Das wrote:
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] i2c: Enhance i2c_new_ancillary_device API
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:41:35AM +0000, Biju Das wrote:
> > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH v5 01/11] i2c: Enhance i2c_new_ancillary_device
> > > > API
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] i2c: Enhance
> > > > > i2c_new_ancillary_device API
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry for not being able to chime in earlier.
> > > > >
> > > > > > In Biju's particular use case, the i2c device responds to two
> > > > > > addresses, which is the standard i2c ancillary use case.
> > > > > > However, what's special
> > > > >
> > > > > Not quite. ancillary is used when a *driver* needs to take care of
> > > > > two addresses. We already have devices bundling two features into
> > > > > the same chip. I recall at least RTC + EEPROM somewhere. And so
> > > > > far, we have been handling this by creating two nodes in DT and have proper binding docs.
> > > > > I think this is cleaner. First, you can see in DT already what the
> > > > > compound device really consists of. In this case, which RTC and
> > > > > RTC driver is exactly needed. Second, the code added here adds
> > > > > complexity to the I2C core with another layer of inderection for dummy devices.
> > > >
> > > > FYI, please see [1] and [2]
> > > >
> > > > As per DT maintainers, most of PMICs are described with one node,
> > > > even though RTC is on separate address. According to them the DT
> > > > schema allows multiple addresses for children.
> > > > But currently we lacks implementation for that. The enhancement to
> > > > this API allows that.
> > > >
> > > > > > As some resources are shared (knowledge about the clocks),
> > > > > > splitting this in two distinct devices in DT (which is what
> > > > > > Biju's initial patch series did) would need phandles to link both nodes together.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have a better idea how to represent this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure if I understood this chip correctly, but maybe: The PMIC
> > > > > driver exposes a clock gate which can be consumed by the RTC driver?
> > >
> > > Let me give me some details of this PMIC chip.
> > >
> > > PMIC device has 2 addresses "0x12:- PMIC" , "0x6f"- rtc.
> > >
> > > It has XIN, XOUT, INT# pins and a register for firmware revisions.
> > 
> > Is the firmware revision register accessed through address 0x12 (PMIC) or
> > 0x6f (RTC) ?
> 
> 0x12(PMIC).
> 
> > > Based on the system design,
> > >
> > > If XIN and XOUT is connected to external crystal, Internal oscillator
> > > is enabled for RTC. In this case we need to set the oscillator bit to
> > > "0".
> > >
> > > If XIN is connected to external clock source, Internal oscillator is
> > > disabled for RTC. In this case we need to set the oscillator bit to
> > > "1".
> > 
> > Same here, which address is the oscillator bit accessed through ?
> 
> RTC (0x6F)--> to set oscillator bit.

And does the PMIC part depend on the oscillator bit being set correctly,
or is that used for the RTC only ?

> > > If XIN and XOUT not connected RTC operation not possible.
> > >
> > > IRQ# (optional) functionality is shared between PMIC and RTC. (PMIC
> > > fault for various bucks/LDOs/WDT/OTP/NVM and alarm condition).
> > 
> > IRQs can be shared between multiple devices so this shouldn't be a
> > problem.
> 
> OK. How do we represent this IRQ in DT?

You can simply reference the same IRQ from the interrupts property of
different DT nodes.

> > > The board, I have doesn't populate IRQ# pin. If needed some customers
> > > can populate IRQ# pin and use it for PMIC fault and RTC alarm.
> > >
> > > Also, currently my board has PMIC rev a0 where oscillator bit is
> > > inverted and internal oscillator is enabled (ie: XIN and XOUT is
> > > connected to external crystal)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart



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