> -----Original Message----- > From: Pali Rohár [mailto:pali.rohar@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:50 PM > To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@xxxxxxxxxx>; Michał Kępień > <kernel@xxxxxxxxxx>; Jean Delvare <jdelvare@xxxxxxxx>; Wolfram Sang > <wsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Steven Honeyman <stevenhoneyman@xxxxxxxxx>; > Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx; Jochen Eisinger <jochen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > Gabriele Mazzotta <gabriele.mzt@xxxxxxxxx>; Andy Lutomirski > <luto@xxxxxxxxxx>; Limonciello, Mario <Mario_Limonciello@xxxxxxxx>; Alex > Hung <alex.hung@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx>; linux- > i2c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; platform-driver- > x86@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [PATCH] i2c: i801: Register optional lis3lv02d i2c device on Dell > machines > > On Tuesday 03 January 2017 19:38:43 Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 10:06:41AM +0100, Benjamin Tissoires wrote: > > > On Dec 29 2016 or thereabouts, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > > On Thursday 29 December 2016 22:09:32 Michał Kępień wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday 29 December 2016 14:47:19 Michał Kępień wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thursday 29 December 2016 09:29:36 Michał Kępień wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dell platform team told us that some (DMI > > > > > > > > > > whitelisted) Dell Latitude machines have ST > > > > > > > > > > microelectronics accelerometer at i2c address 0x29. > > > > > > > > > > That i2c address is not specified in DMI or ACPI, so > > > > > > > > > > runtime detection without whitelist which is below is > > > > > > > > > > not possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Presence of that ST microelectronics accelerometer is > > > > > > > > > > verified by existence of SMO88xx ACPI device which > > > > > > > > > > represent that accelerometer. Unfortunately without > > > > > > > > > > i2c address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This part of the commit message sounded a bit confusing > > > > > > > > > to me at first because there is already an ACPI driver > > > > > > > > > which handles SMO88xx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devices (dell-smo8800). My understanding is that: > > > > > > > > > * the purpose of this patch is to expose a richer > > > > > > > > > interface (as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > provided by lis3lv02d) to these devices on some > > > > > > > > > machines, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * on whitelisted machines, dell-smo8800 and lis3lv02d > > > > > > > > > can work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simultaneously (even though dell-smo8800 > > > > > > > > > effectively duplicates the work that lis3lv02d > > > > > > > > > does). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. dell-smo8800 reads from ACPI irq number and exports > > > > > > > > /dev/freefall device which notify userspace about falls. > > > > > > > > lis3lv02d is i2c driver which exports axes of > > > > > > > > accelerometer. Additionaly lis3lv02d can export also > > > > > > > > /dev/freefall if registerer of i2c device provides irq > > > > > > > > number -- which is not case of this patch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So both drivers are doing different things and both are > > > > > > > > useful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IIRC both dell-smo8800 and lis3lv02d represent one HW > > > > > > > > device (that ST microelectronics accelerometer) but due to > > > > > > > > complicated HW abstraction and layers on Dell laptops it > > > > > > > > is handled by two drivers, one ACPI and one i2c. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, in ideal world irq number should be passed to > > > > > > > > lis3lv02d driver and that would export whole device (with > > > > > > > > /dev/freefall too), but due to HW abstraction it is too > > > > > > > > much complicated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? AFAICT, all that is required to pass that IRQ number > > > > > > > all the way down to lis3lv02d is to set the irq field of the > > > > > > > struct i2c_board_info you are passing to i2c_new_device(). > > > > > > > And you can extract that IRQ number e.g. in > > > > > > > check_acpi_smo88xx_device(). However, you would then need to > > > > > > > make sure dell-smo8800 does not attempt to request the same > > > > > > > IRQ on whitelisted machines. This got me thinking about a > > > > > > > way to somehow incorporate your changes into dell-smo8800 > > > > > > > using Wolfram's bus_notifier suggestion, but I do not have a > > > > > > > working solution for now. What is tempting about this > > > > > > > approach is that you would not have to scan the ACPI > > > > > > > namespace in search of SMO88xx devices, because > > > > > > > smo8800_add() is automatically called for them. > > > > > > > However, I fear that the resulting solution may be more > > > > > > > complicated than the one you submitted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then we need to deal with lot of problems. Order of loading > > > > > > .ko modules is undefined. Binding devices to drivers > > > > > > registered by .ko module is also in "random" order. At any > > > > > > time any of those .ko module can be unloaded or at least > > > > > > device unbind (via sysfs) from driver... And there can be some > > > > > > pathological situation (thanks to adding ACPI layer as Andy > > > > > > pointed) that there will be more SMO88xx devices in ACPI. Plus > > > > > > you can compile kernel with and without those modules and also > > > > > > you can blacklist loading them (so compile time check is not > > > > > > enough). And still some correct message notifier must be used. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think such solution is much much more complicated, there are > > > > > > lot of combinations of kernel configuration and available dell > > > > > > devices... > > > > > > > > > > I tried a few more things, but ultimately failed to find a nice > > > > > way to implement this. > > > > > > > > > > Another issue popped up, though. Linus' master branch contains > > > > > a recent commit by Benjamin Tissoires (CC'ed), 4d5538f5882a > > > > > ("i2c: use an IRQ to report Host Notify events, not alert") > > > > > which breaks your patch. The reason for that is that lis3lv02d > > > > > relies on the i2c client's IRQ being 0 to detect that it should > > > > > not create /dev/freefall. Benjamin's patch causes the Host > > > > > Notify IRQ to be assigned to the i2c client your patch creates, > > > > > thus causing lis3lv02d to create /dev/freefall, which in turn > > > > > conflicts with dell-smo8800 which is trying to create > > > > > /dev/freefall itself. > > > > > > > > So 4d5538f5882a is breaking lis3lv02d driver... > > > > > > Apologies for that. > > > > > > I could easily fix this by adding a kernel API to know whether the > > > provided irq is from Host Notify or if it was coming from an actual > > > declaration. However, I have no idea how many other drivers would > > > require this (hopefully only this one). > > > > > > One other solution would be to reserve the Host Notify IRQ and let > > > the actual drivers that need it to set it, but this was not the best > > > solution according to Dmitri. On my side, I am not entirely against > > > this given that it's a chip feature, so the driver should be able to > > > know that it's available. > > > > > > Dmitri, Wolfram, Jean, any preferences? > > > > I read this: > > > > "IIRC both dell-smo8800 and lis3lv02d represent one HW device (that ST > > microelectronics accelerometer) but due to complicated HW abstraction > > and layers on Dell laptops it is handled by two drivers, one ACPI and > > one i2c." > > > > and that is the core of the issue. You have 2 drivers fighting over > > the same device. Fix this and it will all work. > > With my current implementation (which I sent in this patch), they are not > fighting. > > dell-smo8800 exports /dev/freefall (and nothing more) and lis3lv02d only > accelerometer device as lis3lv02d driver does not get IRQ number in platform > data. > > > As far as I can see hp_accel instantiates lis3lv02d and accesses it > > via ACPI methods, can the same be done for Dell? > > No, Dell does not have any ACPI methods. And as I wrote in ACPI or DMI is even > not i2c address of device, so it needs to be specified in code itself. > > Really there is no other way... :-( Dell doesn't export the general purpose accelerometer data up to the OS. Pali wanted it however and came up with a way to access it though from the information we have shared. That's the reason that there is no ACPI method for this and it needs to be whitelisted in this driver on the platforms that have it wired up this way. > > > > > > Also, just to make sure we do not overthink this, I understand > > > > > that not every unit of the models from the whitelist has an > > > > > accelerometer, correct? In other words, could we perhaps skip > > > > > the part where we are making sure the SMO88xx ACPI device is > > > > > there? > > > > > > > > Good question... At least for E6440 I'm did not thing it was > > > > possible to configure notebook without "3 axes free fall sensor". > > > > > > > > But! In BIOS SETUP it is possible to disable free fall sensor. I > > > > will try to disable it there and will check what happen. My guess > > > > is that it will be disabled in ACPI. > > > > > > Just adding my 2 cents regarding the whitelist and interaction > > > between those 2 drivers. I find this very fragile to have only one > > > available /dev/freefall node and to rely on the fairness of each > > > driver to not bind one. It would have been much simpler to have > > > /dev/freefallXX and a proper misc class device for it. This way, we > > > don't even need to mutually exclude the drivers. But this is already > > > 8 years old code, so I guess userspace expects this... > > > (why isn't that using the input subsystem at all?). > > > > I do not consider throwing a unit down an ordinary user interaction > > ;) So there is no input event code for this. > > > > Userspace should really use IIO accelerometer interface here. And > > kernel could provide composite IIO->/dev/freefall bridge, like we > > Such "generic" bridge is probably not possible, as /dev/freefall is connected to > specific lis3lv02d IRQ. > > > did for /dev/input/mice when all userspace wanted only PS/2. > > > > Thanks. > > -- > Pali Rohár > pali.rohar@xxxxxxxxx ��.n��������+%������w��{.n�����{��-��)�� jg��� �����ݢj����G���� ���j:+v���w�m������w�������h�����٥
