Re: [PATCH net-next 0/3] vsock: support network namespace

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QE tested this series patch with virtio-net regression tests,
everything works fine.

Tested-by: Lei Yang <leiyang@xxxxxxxxxx>

On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 8:17 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 5:30 PM Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 02:27:12AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > >On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 04:39:02PM -0800, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > >> I think it might be a lot of complexity to bring into the picture from
> > >> netdev, and I'm not sure there is a big win since the vsock device could
> > >> also have a vsock->net itself? I think the complexity will come from the
> > >> address translation, which I don't think netdev buys us because there
> > >> would still be all of the work work to support vsock in netfilter?
> > >
> > >Ugh.
> > >
> > >Guys, let's remember what vsock is.
> > >
> > >It's a replacement for the serial device with an interface
> > >that's easier for userspace to consume, as you get
> > >the demultiplexing by the port number.
>
> Interesting, but at least VSOCKETS said:
>
> """
> config VSOCKETS
>         tristate "Virtual Socket protocol"
>         help
>          Virtual Socket Protocol is a socket protocol similar to TCP/IP
>           allowing communication between Virtual Machines and hypervisor
>           or host.
>
>           You should also select one or more hypervisor-specific transports
>           below.
>
>           To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module
>           will be called vsock. If unsure, say N.
> """
>
> This sounds exactly like networking stuff and spec also said something similar
>
> """
> The virtio socket device is a zero-configuration socket communications
> device. It facilitates data transfer between the guest and device
> without using the Ethernet or IP protocols.
> """
>
> > >
> > >The whole point of vsock is that people do not want
> > >any firewalling, filtering, or management on it.
>
> We won't get this, these are for ethernet and TCP/IP mostly.
>
> > >
> > >It needs to work with no configuration even if networking is
> > >misconfigured or blocked.
>
> I don't see any blockers that prevent us from zero configuration, or I
> miss something?
>
> >
> > I agree with Michael here.
> >
> > It's been 5 years and my memory is bad, but using netdev seemed like a
> > mess, especially because in vsock we don't have anything related to
> > IP/Ethernet/ARP, etc.
>
> We don't need to bother with that, kernel support protocols other than TCP/IP.
>
> >
> > I see vsock more as AF_UNIX than netdev.
>
> But you have a device in guest that differs from the AF_UNIX.
>
> >
> > I put in CC Jakub who was covering network namespace, maybe he has some
> > advice for us regarding this. Context [1].
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stefano
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/Z8edJjqAqAaV3Vkt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> >
>
> Thanks
>
>






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