RE: [PATCH net-next,v2] tcp: Set pingpong threshold via sysctl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 4:07 PM
> To: Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next,v2] tcp: Set pingpong threshold via sysctl
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> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 3:24 PM Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > TCP pingpong threshold is 1 by default. But some applications, like SQL DB
> > may prefer a higher pingpong threshold to activate delayed acks in quick
> > ack mode for better performance.
> >
> > The pingpong threshold and related code were changed to 3 in the year
> > 2019 in:
> >   commit 4a41f453bedf ("tcp: change pingpong threshold to 3")
> > And reverted to 1 in the year 2022 in:
> >   commit 4d8f24eeedc5 ("Revert "tcp: change pingpong threshold to 3"")
> >
> > There is no single value that fits all applications.
> > Add net.ipv4.tcp_pingpong_thresh sysctl tunable, so it can be tuned for
> > optimal performance based on the application needs.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > ---
> > v2: Make it per-namesapce setting, and other updates suggested by Neal
> Cardwell,
> > and Kuniyuki Iwashima.
> >
> > ---
> >  Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.rst |  8 ++++++++
> >  include/net/inet_connection_sock.h     | 16 ++++++++++++----
> >  include/net/netns/ipv4.h               |  1 +
> >  net/ipv4/sysctl_net_ipv4.c             |  8 ++++++++
> >  net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c                    |  2 ++
> >  net/ipv4/tcp_output.c                  |  4 ++--
> >  6 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.rst
> b/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.rst
> > index 5bfa1837968c..c0308b65dc2f 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.rst
> > @@ -1183,6 +1183,14 @@ tcp_plb_cong_thresh - INTEGER
> >
> >         Default: 128
> >
> > +tcp_pingpong_thresh - INTEGER
> > +       TCP pingpong threshold is 1 by default, but some application may need
> a
> > +       higher threshold for optimal performance.
> > +
> > +       Possible Values: 1 - 255
> > +
> > +       Default: 1
> > +
> 
> It would be good to document what the meaning of the parameter is.
> Perhaps consider something like:
> 
> 'The number of estimated data replies sent for estimated incoming data
> requests that must happen before TCP estimates that a connection is a
> "ping-pong" (request-response) connection for which delayed
> acknowledgments can provide benefits. This threshold is 1 by default,
> but some applications may need a higher threshold for optimal
> performance.'
> 
Will do.

Thanks,
- Haiyang




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