Re: [PATCH v1 3/4] hwmon (it87): Test for chipset before entering configuration mode

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On Thu, 2024-04-11 at 05:20 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 09:08:19PM +1000, Frank Crawford wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-04-10 at 08:17 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 01:56:05PM +1100, Frank Crawford wrote:
> > > > Major part of the change for the new method to avoid chipset
> > > > issues.
> > > > 
> > > > Perform an intial test if the chip ID can be read without
> > > > entering
> > > > configuration mode, if so, do not enter configuration mode and
> > > > continue
> > > > as is.
> > > > 
> > > > If chip ID cannot be read, enter configuration mode, and
> > > > continue
> > > > with
> > > > previous code.
> > > > 
> > > > Also update exit code to take account of if we entered
> > > > configuration
> > > > mode or not.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > You describe the changes, but you don't describe the problem you
> > > are
> > > trying to solve. Even if configuration mode was already entered,
> > > that
> > > is not a reason to keep it active. We don't _know_ what is going
> > > on
> > > outside the driver and can not make assumptions. For changes like
> > > this
> > > you really need to explain the problem you are trying to solve,
> > > and
> > > the
> > > reasoning behind the changes. Just assuming that a set of chips
> > > would
> > > have its SIO mode enabled by the BIOS is just wrong. We don't
> > > know
> > > what if anything the BIOS is doing.
> > 
> > In this regard, it is no different to the current code, which runs
> > SIO
> > mode enable, but does not ever run the SIO mode disable code.
> > 
> > In fact this code is actually safer than the previous code in that
> > it
> > acts similar to the chip not being enabled or disabled, which would
> > happen if no driver existed.
> 
> Not really. There is also the watchdog code which will happily
> disable
> SIO access after it is done, causing subsequent accesses by the hwmon
> driver to fail. The code also assumes that SIO access was not
> erroneously
> left enabled by some other code which we don't have any control over.

And unfortunately if I can't do anything about it, I can only ignore
it.  If something does come up we can see what can work out at the
time.
> 
> You assume that the hwmon driver is the only driver accessing the
> chip.
> That is a wrong assumption. I understand that the underlying problem
> is really that there is no SIO access infrastructure in the kernel.
> In the absence of such an infrastructure we can not make any
> assumptions
> about SIO access control implemented by other drivers in the kernel,
> and specifically can not assume that SIO access won't be disabled by
> other drivers just because it was enabled when the hwmon driver probe
> function was running.

In this case the fact that it is the second chip may mean it will not
come up.  While I am told that the chip is fully functional with non-
hwmon functions, but currently it does look like most of those aren't
used.  While this won't necessarily stay this way in the future, we
currently cannot do anything about it.
> 
> Guenter

Regards
Frank





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