On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 06:49:07PM +0000, Trent Piepho wrote: > On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 18:12 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > On 10/29/18 2:16 PM, Trent Piepho wrote: > > > > > > If we ignore the ability to stop other devices, how is this not a hwmon > > > device with just alarm features? > > > > > > > Possibly, but the ability to stop other devices is at the core of the driver > > as submitted. > > I was thinking along the lines of a driver for gpio based hardware > alarms, that did not include the device stop feature. Would that also > be quickly NACKed? > I think we are beyond that. Guenter > > > I2C/LPC/SPI interface was not connected as an appropriate master was > > > not available, and the default configuration of the chip was > > > acceptable. The chip's alarm outputs are connected to GPIOs, as it > > > normal for a hwmon chip with alarm outputs. > > > > > > > "If we had" is theory. Do we ? We don't usually add code to the kernel > > just in case the hardware it supports might be out there. > > What I was trying to do was reach the conclusion that a gpio hardware > alarm as a hwmon driver is appropriate via clear steps. > > A classic hwmon chip should have a hwmon driver. We all accept that. > > Disconnect i2c interface, keep alarms, does the kernel interface need > to change? Seems clear to me the answer is no, should still be hwmon. > > Replace chip with discrete logic, e.g. an op amp and a few resistors > serving as a voltage comparator, which has the same behavior as the > hwmon chip as far as the rest of the system is concerned. Does the > kernel interface need to change now? Again, seems like it shouldn't > change. > > > > > For voltage monitoring, that is not normally the case. It is much more likely > > that there is in fact a hardware monitoring or power control chip, the > > (or an) alarm output of that chip is connected to a gpio line, and its control > > interface is connected. If so, the driver for that chip should be enhanced > > to support interrupts, and to report the status with its own sysfs attributes. > > I agree that writing a specialized driver that pretends a hwmon chip > with a control interface is just a gpio wouldn't be appropriate as an > upstreamable driver for the kernel. It's more of a one off hack of > expediency. > > But it's pretty easy to make a voltage alarm circuit with an op amp. > Even a differential temperature sensor with hysteresis is just a few > components. > > Would a hwmon driver for this be unacceptable?