On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:34:34PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 08:18:23PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:18 PM Andy Shevchenko > > <andriy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > The commit breaks MMC enumeration on the Intel Merrifield > > > plaform. > > > > The enumeration works, just that the probe order is different, right? > > > > > Before: > > > [ 36.439057] mmc0: SDHCI controller on PCI [0000:00:01.0] using ADMA > > > [ 36.450924] mmc2: SDHCI controller on PCI [0000:00:01.3] using ADMA > > > [ 36.459355] mmc1: SDHCI controller on PCI [0000:00:01.2] using ADMA > > > [ 36.706399] mmc0: new DDR MMC card at address 0001 > > > [ 37.058972] mmc2: new ultra high speed DDR50 SDIO card at address 0001 > > > [ 37.278977] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 H4G1d 3.64 GiB > > > [ 37.297300] mmcblk0: p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 > > > > > > After: > > > [ 36.436704] mmc2: SDHCI controller on PCI [0000:00:01.3] using ADMA > > > [ 36.436720] mmc1: SDHCI controller on PCI [0000:00:01.0] using ADMA > > > [ 36.463685] mmc0: SDHCI controller on PCI [0000:00:01.2] using ADMA > > > [ 36.720627] mmc1: new DDR MMC card at address 0001 > > > [ 37.068181] mmc2: new ultra high speed DDR50 SDIO card at address 0001 > > > [ 37.279998] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 H4G1d 3.64 GiB > > > [ 37.302670] mmcblk1: p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 > > > > > > This reverts commit c153a4edff6ab01370fcac8e46f9c89cca1060c2. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Relying on this probe order or whatever it is causing one or the other > > to be enumerated first seems very fragile, I think this condition can be > > caused by other much more random things in the probe path as well, > > so it would be great if we could just hammer this down for good, as > > it is apparently ABI. And as I mentioned in the reply to the patch, I have 100% reproducibility of the issue, I never have "random" or arbitrary numbers. While it might be fragile, it very well works reliably for _years_. > > In the past some file system developers have told us (Ulf will know) > > that we can't rely on the block device enumeration to identify > > devices, and requires that we use things such as sysfs or the > > UUID volume label in ext4 to identify storage. > > While I technically might agree with you, this was working for everybody > since day 1 of support of Intel Merrifield added (circa v4.8), now _user > space_ is broken. > > Note, I'm having _simple_ setup, no fancy UDEV or DBUS there, and I want > my scripts simply continue working. As I mentioned, this is Buildroot > + Busybox which I haven't touched in the area of how they treat MMC > devices in _user space_. > > Since we are at rc6 I prefer to get this reverted first and next cycle we can > discuss better solutions. I'm all for testing any. > > > That said, device trees are full of stuff like this: > > > > aliases { > > serial0 = &uart_AO; > > mmc0 = &sd_card_slot; > > mmc1 = &sdhc; > > }; > > And Rob, AFAIU, is against aliases. > > > Notice how this enumeration gets defined by the aliases. > > > > Can you do the same with device properties? (If anyone can > > answer that question it's Dmitry!) > > No, and why should we? -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko