On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 08:43:38AM +0000, Peng Fan wrote: > > Subject: Re: [RFC] scmi: pinctrl: support i.MX9 > > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 2:47 PM Peng Fan <peng.fan@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Me: Hi Peng, > > > > >> it is merely making things more complex and also slower > > > > bymaking the registers only accessible from this SCMI link. > > > > > > This is for safety reason, the pinctrl hardware must be handled by a > > > system manager entity. So mmio direct access not allowed from Cortex-A > > > side. > > > > Yeah I understood as much. But I don't think that the firmware is really > > filtering any of the access, it will just poke into any pinctrl register as > > instructed anyway so what's the point. Just looks like a layer of indirection. > > No, the firmware has a check on whether a pin is allowed to be configured > by the agent that wanna to configure the pin. > > > But I'm not your system manager, so it's not my decision. > > > > > The SCMI firmware is very straightforward, there is no group or > > > function. > > > > > > It just accepts the format as this: > > > MUX_TYPE, MUX VALUE, CONF_TYPE, CONF_VAL, DAISY_TYPE, DAISY ID, > > > DAISY_CFG, DAISY_VALUE. > > > > > > Similar as linux MMIO format. > > > > > > Our i.MX95 platform will support two settings, one with SCMI firmware, > > > one without SCMI. These two settings will share the same pinctrl > > > header file. > > > > > > And to simplify the scmi firmware design(anyway I am not owner of the > > > firmware), to make pinctrl header shared w/o scmi, we take the current > > > in-upstream freescale imx binding format. > > > > The SCMI people will have to state their position on this. > > Like what they consider conformance and what extensions are allowed. This > > is more a standardization question than an implementation question so it's > > not really my turf. > > The i.MX95 SCMI firmware uses OEM extension type. So I just follow > what the firmware did and support it in linux. Anyway let's > wait Sudeep's reply. > So my unsderstanding on this matter as of now is that: 1. the current SCMI Pinctrl specification can support your usecase by using OEM Types and multiple pins/values CONFIG_GET/SET commands 2. the Kernel SCMI protocol layer (driver/firmware/arm_scmi/pinctrl.c) is equally fine and can support your usecase, AFTER Oleksii fixes it to align it to the latest v3.2-BETA2 specification changes. IOW, this means that, using the SCMI Pinctrl protocol operations exposed in scmi_protocol.h, from somewhere, you are able to properly configure multiple pins/values with your specific OEM types. 3. The SCMI Pinctrl driver (by Oleksii) built on top of the pinctrl protocol operations is instead NOT suitable for your usecase since it uses the Linux Generic Pinconf and IMX does not make use of it, and instead IMX has its own bindings and related parsing logic. Am I right ? If this is the case, I would NOT try to abuse the current SCMI Pinctrl Generic driver (by Oleksii) by throwing into it a bunch of IMX specific DT parsing, also because you'll end-up NOT using most of the generic SCMI Pinctrl driver but just reusing a bit of the probe (customized with your own DT maps parsing) Instead, given that the spec[1.] and the protocol layer[2.] are fine for your use case and you indeed have already a custom way to parse your DT mappings, I would say that you could just write your own custom SCMI driver ( ? pinctrl-imx-scmi), distinct and much more simple than the generic one, that does its own IMX DT parsing and calls just the SCMI protocol operations that it needs in the way that your platform expects: so basically another Pinctrl SCMI driver that does not use the generic pinconf DT configuration BUT DO USE the underlying SCMI Pinctrl protocol (via its exposed protocol operations...) Not sure what Sudeep thinks about supporting multiple SCMI driver for the same protocol (we did it already for Sensors hwmon && iio), and if this approach won't need some sort of mutual exclusion mechanism in Kconfig to avoid loading both the generic and the custom IMX (even though they should be able to co-exist from the SCMI kernel/fw stack pint of view, as long as you dont mess-up the DTs and mixup generic pins with custom IMX pins...) Instead, adding an IMX-custom extension to what it was supposed to be a generic driver (as you propose) seems to me like a stretch of the generic Pinctrl driver that is not really worth, since you'll end up polluting the generic driver with some highly custom and specific IMX bits. while really NOT reusing so much of the generic driver at all. Thanks, Cristian