Re: [PATCH V3 1/2] dt-bindings: pinctrl: support specifying pins, groups & functions

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Rob: please kindly comment on this idea of storing pins/groups/functions
in DT.

For a sample Linux implementation you can check (incomplete):
[PATCH V2 4/6] pinctrl: support reading pins, groups & functions from DT
https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linux-gpio/patch/20211124230439.17531-5-zajec5@xxxxxxxxx/

For a real life DT usage you can check:
[PATCH V2 6/6] ARM: dts: BCM5301X: add pinctrl pins, groups & functions
https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linux-gpio/patch/20211124230439.17531-7-zajec5@xxxxxxxxx/

Also see below inline comments.


On 11.12.2021 00:26, Linus Walleij wrote:
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 12:42 PM Rafał Miłecki <zajec5@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This binding change is meant to introduce a generic way of describing
pinctrl blocks details. Every pinmux block is expected to have:
1. Named pins
2. Named groups containing one or more pins
3. Named functions referencing one or more groups

It doesn't describe how hw should be programmed. That remains binding
and driver specific.

So what this does is to take a large chunk of data that we known to be
associated with the compatible string (names of pins, groups and functions,
etc) and put it into the device tree instead of the alternative, which is
what most drivers do, and that is to compile in the data into the
operating system and just look it up by using a compatible
string.

Correct. It changes the place of storing platform specific data.


The DT maintainers have already indicated that this is not desirable
and I don't see it getting merged before it has a Reviewed-by
tag from one of the DT binding maintainers.

Tony pointed out that it was back in 2011. It's worth reconsidering.
https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/2786915/

Rob said it depends on whether "data be static (complete) and correct"
https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/2786688/

I find it absolutely required to get Rob's Reviewed-by before we merge
it. I hope we can get Rob's opinion on this.


I think we need to know what the USP (unique selling point) is?

Would it be something like not having to duplicate work across some
boot loaders and operating systems? (Well they all need to parse this
type of description but that can be put into a library.)

Or something else?

There are two reasons for me to work on this binding:


1. I think it's cleaner to keep pinctrl details in DT

DT seems more natural (than C code) for:
a) Translating info from datasheets
b) Storing pin/group/function custom values
c) Defining relations (phandles)
d) Handling chip differences (adding new pins in newer revisions)

Last time I learnt that pins don't always/usually have numbers (in
datasheets) but are rather named. Still in the "pinctrl_pin_desc" we
have "unsigned number" just to enumerate them and reference in groups.

Adding or removing pins/groups/functions in DT is as simple as
adding/deleting nodes. That also means less logic in C code.


2. It avoids data duplication

It allows me to keep pins/groups/functions data in one place (DT) and
use it in both: Linux and U-Boot. No duplication & easier maintenance.



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