> Yes, please. I'd love to learn what the alternative for C++ is then. I'll prep and send something out over the next coming days (possibly this weekend, as I've got some things to address by Friday). I'm currently putting together a talk on the subject, so I'll also share that with you once it is done too. That'll likely be in a few weeks with my other current priorities. > Maybe a time_point returning helper in this case? That would definitely satisfy both needs. Jack