On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 12:51:35PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 03.04.19 06:13, Linus Walleij wrote: > > > But the chardev on the other hand will protect you from all this.> > If the program crashes, the lines will be free:ed.> > If two scripts > try to access the same GPIO, they will be denied. > Right, when you want this concurrency protection and cleanup stiff > the chardev is the better choice. But I've already had several cases > where the simplicity of the sysfs interface is a big win - all you need > few trivial fs operations. > > That's also nice for exporting in a grid, eg. via 9P (eg. nice for > quickly building up HIL environments) > > ioctls have the bad side effect that they can't be exported via > network in a generic way - your remote fs protocol must support all of > them - even worse: it needs to cope with overlapping ioctl-nr's that > can have entirely different data structures depending on the actual > device. And now try to do that w/ reasonable effort and w/o creating > a shared memory between server and client :p > > Another interesting usecase is permission handling: > > a) some ioctls need special privileges (oh, how I hate all these "if > (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN)) ..." lines in the drivers), but you wanna > give some unprivileged user access to them > b) you wanna give an unprivileged user access to specific gpio's, > but not to all at once. > > With pure filesystem based approach, you can easly define permissions > for each filesystem object. Also you may consider gpiod daemon and it's socket interface, for example. Yes, complicated, but solves above problems AFAICT. I guess the best person, missed in Cc, Bartosz, can tell more about user space interaction. And btw gpiod still a good to have for other even local cases: https://github.com/brgl/libgpiod/issues/29 https://github.com/brgl/libgpiod/issues/40 ... > Yes, these usecases aren't so common for average Jon Doe, but the gpio > subsystem is used that way, out there in the field, and it would be bad > if that functionality would go away someday. -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko