On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 06:18:42PM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Johan Hovold <johan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > [Pargmann] > >> As an idea: We could use the complete path to create some sort of unique id for > >> the device (perhaps hash or something different). This id can be exported as > >> device attribute and would allow udev to create some links as known from > >> /dev/disk/by-id for example. This would make identifying a single chip quite > >> easy for any userspace application and we would avoid having this really long > >> path somewhere. > > > > The unique ids are already there in sysfs, for example: > > > > $ for x in /sys/bus/gpio/devices/gpiochip*; do readlink $x; done > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48310000.gpio/gpiochip0 > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/49050000.gpio/gpiochip1 > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/49052000.gpio/gpiochip2 > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/49054000.gpio/gpiochip3 > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/49056000.gpio/gpiochip4 > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/49058000.gpio/gpiochip5 > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48070000.i2c/i2c-0/0-0048/twl4030-gpio/gpiochip6 > > ../../../devices/platform/68000000.ocp/48064000.usbhshost/48064800.ehci/usb1/1-2/1-2.3/1-2.3:1.0/gpiochip7 > > > > And libudev can be used to lookup devices based on (parent) attributes > > (such as USB VID/PID, serial numbers, etc). > > > > We could also export further attributes if that would help (e.g. > > gpio-chip labels). > > Yeah sysfs does provide this. > > This has the problem that everyone and their dog need to use udev > or something like it. Some library or so that run around in sysfs like > libudev+systemdlib does currently. > > And since Android does not use udev, and Busybox does not use udev, > there are quite a few million users there. Or at least two big projects that > need to reimplement the same idea. It could be argued that they should, > since sysfs is indeed an ABI. > > In the Busybox mdev case part of the goal is to minimize userspace code > size too, and it does not support the complex rules of udev for example. > > It'd be nice if devices could be uniquely identified in the chardev alone > I think, then we don't need to much reliance on external assumptions > and traversing sysfs somehow for more info. Point is that this is not a gpio-specific problem. Userspace needs to deal with this for any resource it wants to access (e.g. i2c or spi). And you should be able to use libudev for tree-traversal without actually using udevd, right? Johan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-gpio" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html