Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 2/4] ASoC: s3c64xx/smartq: use dynamic registration

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:00:45PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On 07/15/2014 09:36 AM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Monday 14 July 2014 19:36:24 Mark Brown wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 08:23:55PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Monday 14 July 2014 18:18:12 Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes. But now that you say it the gpiod_direction_output() call is
> >>>>>>> missing
> >>>>>>> from this patch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm lost now. The GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH I added comes from
> >>>>>> Documentation/gpio/board.txt
> >>>>>> and as Linus Walleij explained to me the other day, the lookup is
> >>>>>> supposed
> >>>>>> to replace devm_gpio_request_one(), which in turn replaced both the
> >>>>>> gpio_request and the gpio_direction_output(). Do I need to put the
> >>>>>> gpiod_direction_output() back or is there another interface for that
> >>>>>> when
> >>>>>> registering the board gpios?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Indeed.  If you *do* need an explicit _output() then that sounds to me
> >>>>> like we either need a gpiod_get_one() or an extension to the table,
> >>>>> looking at the code it seems like this is indeed the case.  We can set
> >>>>> if the GPIO is active high/low, or open source/drain but there's no flag
> >>>>> for the initial state.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> (adding Alexandre and the gpio list)
> >>>>
> >>>> GPIO people: any guidance on how a board file should set a gpio to
> >>>> output/default-high in a GPIO_LOOKUP() table to replace a
> >>>> devm_gpio_request_one() call in a device driver with devm_gpiod_get()?
> >>>> Do we need to add an interface extension to do this, e.g. passing
> >>>> GPIOF_OUT_INIT_HIGH as the flags rather than GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The way I see it, GPIO mappings (whether they are done using the
> >>> lookup tables, DT, or ACPI) should only care about details that are
> >>> relevant to the device layout and that should be abstracted to the
> >>> driver (e.g. whether the GPIO is active low or open drain) so drivers
> >>> do not need to check X conditions every time they want to drive the
> >>> GPIO.
> >>>
> >>> Direction and initial value, on the other hand, are clearly properties
> >>> that ought to be set by the driver itself. Thus my expectation here
> >>> would be that the driver sets the GPIO direction and initial value as
> >>> soon as it gets it using gpiod_direction_output(). In other words,
> >>> there is no replacement for gpio_request_one() with the gpiod
> >>> interface. Is there any use-case that cannot be covered by calling
> >>> gpiod_direction_output() right after gpiod_get()? AFAICT this is what
> >>> gpio_request_one() was doing anyway.
> >>
> >>
> >> I agree with you that this is something that should be done in the driver
> >> and not in the lookup table. I think that it is still a good idea to have a
> >> replacement for gpio_request_one with the new GPIO descriptor API. A large
> >> share of the drivers want to call either gpio_direction_input() or
> >> gpio_direction_output() right after requesting the GPIO. Combining both the
> >> requesting and the configuration of the GPIO into one function call makes
> >> the code a bit shorter and also simplifies the error handling. Even more so
> >> if e.g. the GPIO is optional. This was one of the main reasons why
> >> gpio_request_one was introduced, see the commit[1] that added it.
> >
> > I am not opposed to it as a convenience function. Note that since the
> > open-source and open-drain flags are already handled by the lookup
> > table, the only flags it should handle are those related to direction,
> > value, and (maybe) sysfs export.
> 
> Problem is, too much convenience functions seems to ultimately kill convenience.
> 
> The canonical way to request a GPIO is by providing a (device,
> function, index) triplet to gpiod_get_index(). Since most functions
> only need one GPIO, we have gpiod_get(device, function) which is
> basically an alias to gpiod_get_index(device, function, 0) (note to
> self: we should probably inline it).
> 
> On top of these comes another set of convenience functions,
> gpiod_get_optional() and gpiod_get_index_optional(), which return NULL
> instead of -ENOENT if the requested GPIO mapping does not exist. This
> is useful for the common case where a driver can work without a GPIO.
> 
> Of course these functions all have devm counterparts, so we currently
> have 8 (devm_)gpiod_get(_index)(_optional) functions.
> 
> If we are to add functions with an init flags parameter, we will end
> with 16 functions. That starts to be a bit too much to my taste, and
> maybe that's where GPIO consumers should sacrifice some convenience to
> preserve a comprehensible GPIO API.
> 
> There might be other ways to work around this though. For instance, we
> could replace the _optional functions by a GPIOF_OPTIONAL flag to be
> passed to a more generic function that would also accept direction and
> init value flags. Actually I am not seeing any user of the _optional
> variant in -next, so maybe we should just do this. Thierry, since you
> introduced the _optional functions, can we get your thoughts about
> this?

I personally prefer explicit naming of the functions rather than putting
a bunch of flags into some parameter. If you're overly concerned about
the amount of convenience functions, perhaps the _index variants can be
left out for gpiod_get_one(). I'd argue that if drivers want to deal
with that level of detail anyway, they may just as well add the index
explicitly when calling the function.

While we're at it, gpiod_get_one() doesn't sound like a very good name.
All other variants only request "one" as well. Perhaps something like
gpiod_get_with_flags() would be a better name.

Then again, maybe rather than add a new set of functions we should bite
the bullet and change gpiod_get() (and variants) to take an additional
flags parameter. There aren't all that many users yet (I count 26
outside of drivers/gpio), so maybe now would still be a good time to do
that.

Thierry

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